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Time Travel Tinfoil

June 9, 2007

I ran across this story a couple of years back when I was just commenting on blogs and not writing them yet. This concerns the story of John Titor. Now John Titor purportedly was a visiter from the future. From the year 2036 actually. Crazy, ay? So I checked the story out and it was touted as the real thing, a hoax, a prophecy and just plain old whacko by most of the people on the ‘tubes in those days. Even now it’s considered tinfoil conspiracy.

I followed up and it comes up that there is an actual John Titor. He was born in Florida and right now he’s a nine year old kid (born in 1998 for you math challenged). I’m going to post part of an Internet conversation (via posts) with ‘Mr. Titor’ to give you an idea of what was going on. Oh yeah, this conversation supposedly happened November 2000 to March 2001.

On my worldline, life is not easy. We live in a world recovering from years of war, poison, destruction and hate. All of it, courtesy of the thinking and actions of people that live right now in the same world you do, worrying about which stocks to buy or whether or not a stranger is lying to them on the Internet.

I believe that hardship and challenge develop character and community. My first experience with war came when I joined a shotgun infantry unit at the age of thirteen. In the 4 years I served as a “rebel”, I watched hundreds of people get shot, burn and bleed to death. I know exactly where I was and every detail of the exact moment the first nuclear warheads began falling on Jacksonville. I know the pain and regret of not acting soon enough to enjoy a relationship as a loved one dies of brain cancer from a war that gained nothing.

How can you possibly criticize me for any conflict that comes to you? I watch every day what you are doing as a society. While you sit by and watch your Constitution being torn away from you, you willfully eat poisoned food, buy manufactured products no one needs and turn an uncaring eye away from millions of people suffering and dying all around you. Is this the “Universal Law” you subscribe to?

Perhaps I should let you all in on a little secret. No one likes you in the future. This time period is looked at as being full of lazy, self-centered, civically ignorant sheep. Perhaps you should be less concerned about me and more concerned about that.

Imagine you are Jewish and you are able to travel back in time to Germany in 1935. All around you are the patterns of thinking and action that will lead to a great deal of harm, death and destruction in just a few years. You have the advantage of knowing what will come but no one will listen to you. In fact, they think you’re insane and the situations you describe could never happen.

What I feel is not anger, it is sadness that you cannot see what I see.

What event started the war? Can it be stopped?
The war is a result of faulty politics and desperation from Western
leadership during the US civil war. Yes, I suppose you could stop it.

Are some areas of the United States safer than others?
Take a close look at the county-by-county voting map from the last
elections.

Were biological or chemical weapons used in the war? Were any weapons used that effected people’s minds?
Yes there were biological and chemical weapons used. No mind control weapons but there are new “non-lethal” weapon systems that turn out to be quite lethal.

What would you say to any world leaders who might be reading this right now?
Revel in your confidence today because you will not win tomorrow.

What are the social prejudices in 2036?
Yes there are. However, as odd as it may sound, it serves a useful purpose in my time. First, you must realize that your experiences with “prejudice” and mine are different. I would characterize the intolerance you have here as a result of ignorance and fear. I have observed that people with unfounded and irrational fears about their fellow man in this time have the luxury of not having their beliefs tested.

After the war, much of the prejudice you have now was swept away by simple necessity. People had to work and fight together just to survive. This has a way of opening a person’s eyes as to the value of fellow human beings.

What difference does the color of a man’s skin make when you are both fighting against the same enemy to survive or find water or grow food? On my worldline, if a man doesn’t pull his weight in the community, then we feel prejudice towards him as a burden to us. This feeling of shame he experiences then makes him realize his responsibilities.

Is there some sort of new world government in place by 2011?
On my worldline in 2011, the United States is in the middle of a civil war that has dramatic effects on most of the other Western governments.

Does the continuing conflict between Arabs and Jews have anything to do with the upcoming war?
Yes.

John was describing a civil war that started in 2005 and was still going on when the US was nuked in 2015 by Russia. Obviously a civil war didn’t start in 2005, but nobody can deny that America is more divided now than it has been since the 1960s and ’70s.

Titor also claims that ‘worldlines’ vary by a certain percentage every time one travels forward or backward in time. He states that this worldline differs from his by 1% to 2% and that the longer a traveler stays in one timeline, the percentage increases. This theory of time is consistent with current understandings of quantum physics.

Whacko theory? Tinfoil? Bullsh*t story? Or a real warning from a possible future that could happen if we stay on our current path of hubris and Empire?

You decide. John Titor – Time Traveler

The interviewer’s questions appear like they’re links, but they’re not. Titor’s answers are underneath.

8 comments

  1. John’s world is a strange mix of communal living and libertarianism.

    Do you believe this is a hoax?


  2. Oddly enough, there are some parallels here to what I was intimating would be the conditions before a great “leader” would appear to apparently solve all of mankind’s woes… through a centralized form of world government, ironically! (Tongue in cheek)

    I’ve heard of Titor, but haven’t had the time to background him. His story could be allegorical, which I think is highly risky for him, given that there are so many theories about the future in competition, right now.

    Read my last comments to you on my last post… see if there isn’t a similar scenario co-extant.


  3. I could see going backward but I can’t conceptualize going forward. If time is a flatline, then to move forward to something that doesn’t exist yet means trans-dimensional movement and then you’re getting to the heart of String theory.


  4. I’ll probably never see either one of you guys again for giving you this ;-) but… here goes:

    http://bushmerika2.blogspot.com/

    Check out his time travel site… you’ll be busy for years!


  5. The current theory, being ‘M-Theory’, links all five of the known string theories. M-Theory involves multiple dimensions and universes.

    We are three dimensional creatures, meaning we move forward and backward, up, down and side to side. We see time as a road to be traveled on, the past is behind us on our journey, and the way forward is unknown to us because we can’t see around the next curve, dip or knoll.

    Think of a four dimensional or five dimensional entity as one that is in orbit around the Earth and can see all roads in one big picture. There is no forward or back, up, down or side to side. The entity can perceive the ‘big picture’, there would be no ‘past’ or ‘future’, just one big ‘now’. And it could ’see’ all obstacles in our ‘future’ that we can’t see.

    Such creatures would be ‘godlike’ or as close to God as we can perceive in our limited understanding of our three dimensional senses.


  6. “Such creatures would be ‘godlike’ or as close to God as we can perceive in our limited understanding of our three dimensional senses.”

    All roads converge at some point, Marine!

    ;-)


  7. Uber Highwayman,

    Great link to a Great site!


  8. there’s also this – a letter from Sierra Waters, time traveller… http://paullevinson.blogspot.com/2007/08/letter-from-sierra-waters.html



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