Ancient Iraqi Tinfoil

When the United States destroyed Iraq per the orders of George W. Bush, I’m sure he didn’t have in mind the fact that Iraq was home to the earliest known civilization, Sumeria.

Sumeria, which started as the city-state Ur ( or Uruk) eventually evolved into Akkadia, Assyria and Babylon. The Sumerians, along with Egyptians were the first to record events surrounding them. Most of the time (80%) all this entailed was accounting records, census and property deeds. But they recorded some extrordinary “myths” or epic tales of great kings, angels and gods. Alot of these stories ended up with the Bible via the Hebrew Torah. There’s some debate with that, but that’s for another day, but what I’m going to say next might clear part of that up.

Zecharia Sitchin is an investigator and author of many books, one of which is entitled The 12th Planet. The premise of the book is that the Sumerian texts that describe the gods they worshipped as “giants who came from the sky” were actual creatures and that they came from a planet named “Nibiru” or body that crosses or travels. The used-to-be planet Pluto figures prominently in this scenario also because according to Sitchin, Pluto used to be a moon of Saturn:

Our solar system has only eight “classical” planets – so has decided the astronomer’s union, meeting in Prague.  Pluto – still out there – must be laughing. 

It is ironic – or, perhaps, symbolic – that the decision to deprive Pluto of its status as our sun’s ninth planet coincides with the 30th anniversary of the publication of my seminal work The Twelfth Planet in Autumn l976.  In it I suggested that the Sumerian Epic of Creation is not an allegorical myth but a sophisticated cosmogony scientifically describing how our solar system came to be; and it most definitely included Pluto. 

Inscribed on seven clay tablets, the text described how the inner and outer planets appeared; how an invading celestial body (“Nibiru”) collided with and broke up the planet ‘Tiamat’, creating “a new heaven;” and how Nibiru, captured in a great elliptical orbit, became the twelfth member of the Sun’s Family – Sun, Moon, and ten planets including Earth, Nibiru and Pluto. These ‘celestial gods’ were matched by a pantheon of twelve deities on Earth. 

The reports from Prague at first suggested that astronomers were bothered by Pluto’s small size, now that a large icy body has been found farther out. But the final vote focused on what has troubled astronomers almost from Pluto’s discovery in 1930.  Its unusual inclined orbit that weaves in and out of Neptune’s path.

This odd orbit has led some astronomers to speculate that Pluto began its life as a satellite, perhaps of Neptune.  But what forceful event could have caused it to shift position and adopt a strange orbit? No one knew. But in The 12th Planet I wrote that the Sumerians of ancient Mesopotamia knew: Pluto (“GAGA” in the Epic of Creation) was indeed a moon of Saturn, pried off and sent into independent orbit by the invading Nibiru to play an important role in those celestial encounters. 

In fact, the Sumerians were also aware that Gaga/Pluto ended up in the odd orbit next to Neptune.  In the Sumerian pantheon, the planet we call Neptune was the celestial counterpart of the Aquarius god Enki.  His ‘chancellor’ or ‘visier’ was nicknamed Ushmu, meaning “He ‘of two faces” – and so was he depicted, with one face looking at Enki and a second face looking away from him (Fig. 1) – exactly the way Pluto looks at Neptune.

Wow. Ancient astronauts. Pluto. When I was 13 years old the idea of ancient astronauts posing as gods was big medicine to me and got me into alot of trouble with my parents (Dad especially), my dad’s family and the preacher of the church my parents attended. It was my first trip wearing the tinfoil hat (some would say that trip is to hell). I’m still wearing that hat by the way, though it’s showing it’s age by now.

This is new stuff to me, even though I cut my teeth on Von Daniken who was a broad base investigator and theorised on the Earth’s cultures at large. Sitchen concentrates on one group of people and how their “religion” was one of the bases for the “Abrahamic” religions.

Read the rest of Sitchin here.

The disclaimer to this is that Sitchin’s translations are inaccurate and since they are inaccurate, his claim is not a legitimate scientific theory. Follow the other links he has on his site after you look through it and judge for yourself. Foil away!

48 responses

  1. I know that the story of Noah has an earlier version in the Sumerian text The Epic of Gilgamesh. The king Gilgamesh was supposedly half man, half god, was immortal and travelled all over the world recording in a journal. Amazing isn’t it!

  2. Von Daniken was popularized. This stuff us sounding more like Emmanuel Velikovsky and his “Worlds in Collision”.

  3. Dad, as you well know, I still adhere to the biblical account of origins. Formerly, I did aspire to Von Daniken’s thoeries, but now, (and I think I am alone on this one, even in Christian circles) I believe the planets are unfinished… at least until the moral issues on Earth are settled, (sin) and will be completed later.

    The Gilgamesh Epic is thought by those in my ‘other’ circles as an account of the pre-flood civilzation, and mentions a certain patriarch named Noe, who delivers the world from a great cataclysmic flood.

    The kings mentioned in the epic could be former rulers of that period in our history. The ages, though exaggerated, of those kings are indicative of the longer life-spans that we humans once enjoyed, before we began ‘de-evolving’ as a result of sin.

    So it is thought…

  4. Von Daniken did get more press, I had three of his books when I was in high school. I think he even got a TV special during the 1970s.

    I read one of Velikovsky’s articles in Analog Science Fiction/Fact back in the 70s also. It seems his theories were more violent (actual planet smashing) than close fly-bys altering orbits.

    But thanks for the reminder Opit, I’ll check out Velikovsy closer. You’re better than Lycos man!

  5. Took a look at the site after commenting. Aren’t there plains of glass near the Hindu Kush like those on the Nevada test range ?

  6. Rocky: It is also posited that the giants were the offspring of the fallen angels (Anunnaki? Elohim? Lost Vulcans?) and the daughters of men.

    It is because of the daughters of men thing I have a problem with Biblical accounts.

    Where did they come from since they preceeded Adam And Eve?

  7. Oops, sorry Opit, according to Sitchin, Nibiru did collide with Tiamat, breaking it up. But it was the close fly-by with Pluto, be it with Saturn or Neptune that pulled it out of orbit into its own.

  8. I have nothing to add, except that this is a very interesting read.

  9. Opit: The Pakistanis did their own underground nuclear testing around the Hindu Kush mountain ranges and below, so that could be explained away.

    But the stories of ancient India describe nuclear weapons being deployed between gods. I’ll investigate further.

  10. In my view they didn’t preceed Adam and Eve.

    The Bible often refers to believers as “children of God.” The “sons” of God were merely men that believed in God as sovereign, and the daughters of men were their non-believing wives from unbelieving families. They were inter-marrying against God’s wishes to preserve a pure lineage.

    The Hebrews were often chastised for their “heathen” affiliations. That’s all that this was referring to. They were ‘straying’ from the fold, as it were.

  11. It is accepted by many in the religious community that the ancients did possess superior intellect and physical prowess. What level their technical prowess attained is debatable.

    I’ve read a lot of those old cuneiform accounts, and like the writings of Nostradamus, you have to sometimes s-t-r-e-t-c-h things a might to make them fit.

  12. Sounds like you have done alot of studying Rocky.

    I’ll admit I haven’t studied the ancient cuneiform accounts. Sounds like I need to educate myself more to argue the super alien vs. supernatural creature hypothesis.

    But like you say, the Hebrews consorted with plenty of heathens, the Sumerians/Akkadians/Babylonians being some of many. You have to admit the Hebrews were heavily influenced by them.

    Couldn’t the ancient’s purported strength come from genetically engineered DNA from another planet? Or some type of post-singularity alien culture?

  13. I believe that God originally gave humanity an inordinate vitality, and what we would call superhuman strength and longevity of life. Remember, that was one reason they were expelled from paradise, so that they would not partake of the food that would extend their lives. The ravages of sin took it’s toll on the race over the millenia, resulting in reduced stature, longevity, etc.

    Evolution in reverse.

  14. We didn’t need any boost from anyone else in the universe, genetically or otherwise, we had it ourselves, originally, and lost it.

    My belief, anyway.

  15. Because of sin?

  16. I have a tough time with the supernatural meme because there would always be natural and explainable by physics. I think it’s entirely plausible that ancient Sumeria and other parts of the world could’ve been visited by more advanced extraterrestrial cultures.

    Could they have been human or human-like? Unlikely. Even another Earth-like planet would have conditions where life is different, even the plants would be different. If intelligent creatures arose there, they would just as soon be smart snakes as smart monkeys.

    Clarke’s Third Law states that any advanced cultures’ technology would appear to be supernatural or magical to us.

    So even if the aliens didn’t really look human, with their technology they could appear to be anything they wanted, even human.

    Can there be other dimensions that we can’t see where non-physical creatures exist? Sure. Post-singularity creatures are more likely to be non-corporeal than material. Whether they’re God, gods, demons or angels is a matter of interpretation.

    Fermi’s Paradox is a post for another day.

    There’s alot of questions and possibilities I could ask, but I’m in danger of boring myself.

    And I have an open mind.

  17. My wife says because my mind is always open, my brains spilled out long ago! LOL. 😉

    Time for bed.

  18. Dad, the “supernatural” theory isn’t any harder to believe than extraterrestrial visitation and ‘their’ hand in genetic manipulation. I know people that consider anything outside of what they need to eat every day as superficial, unnecessary, and consequently impossible, because it doesn’t fit their paradigm for living.

    I know all of the alternative explanations intimately, like the superior technology of aliens being viewed as something of divine power… I used those same arguments, myself, many times, and believed them wholeheartedly… until another explanation became apparent.

    Like I’ve already mentioned to you and others in times past, I cannot guarantee anything that I say will satisfy everyone 100%, or prove beyond a doubt it is true. It just isn’t possible. Nothing that happened that long ago can be. I am merely pointing out alternatives, and like I said to you earlier, I’m here to learn, too. I got where I am with a philosophical outlook, because, in the end, that’s all you can really do. The evidence has never been conclusive on either side, and never will be. The creation version simply makes sense… to me.

    I firmly believe there are other races and societies out there. Other dimensions, etc. I also think their origin was the same as ours. An omnipotent being could do all of that.

    Mirth… the Bible says that “sin” (Greek word for ‘misses the mark’) is the cause of humanity’s defective, or imperfect nature. Not my term… the Bible’s. I know it, ’cause I read it. That’s what Christians believe, too. I know that, ’cause I was one. Like I said… not my term. My explanation of human woe given the evidence would be a result of humanity’s separation from the source of it’s perfection and sustainability… God, if you will. That was recorded, and that’s another thing I can’t prove. I just suspect it’s true.

  19. BTW, the ruins of the ancient cities of Ur and Jericho, previously considered mythological for lack of textual, scholarly evidence, were finally located as a last-ditch search using the masoretic account, (Old Testament) and the latter given the distinction of being an “eye-witness” account and verifiably accurate.

    Consequently, even non-Christian scientists now take scripture as an authority.

  20. Rocky
    Way I got it, synn is an archery term covering variation from a perfect shot: King James era commonly understood English tech. So there may be more than one story circulating.
    Which isn’t to say the Jews didn’t have 7 definitions of what they meant when referring to same.

  21. Rocky: Didn’t mean to demean my brother, if it seems so, I’m sorry. We’re all seekers of knowledge here and that’s what I intended for this blog to begin with.

    And yes, belief in supernatural causes isn’t any more wilder than ETs interfering in Earth’s past.

    Now that you mentioned it and you seem more knowledgable in this subject than I am, wasn’t Jericho proven to be older than Ur? Like by 6,000 years?

    And besides, we’ll agree to disagree, s’alright? 😉

  22. When I encounter Biblical basis for the universe, I know from experience it’s best to steer clear of the discussion.

    Looking forward to Sci-Fi Friday, Dad.

  23. Awww, don’t be chicken Christopher, jump right in!

    Ancient astronauts started my slide into “the dark side” and tinfoil.

    I am working on Friday Science as we speak, or type.

  24. You’re right on that, Opit, I remembered that later on after I commented… I stand corrected. I knew it meant missing the mark, though, which is what mankind has done according to theology.

    Hey, Dad and Chris… you don’t offend me. Dad, we came from the same Daniken! LOL! Chris, speak your mind! I believe what I believe, and I don’t need your approval to be content, nor do you need mine… it’s nice if we agree, but not necessary to co-exist. I accept you, bro, the way you are! I may not live my life like you do, but the way I do works for me, right? We won’t agree on every little thing… so what? Who’s to say I couldn’t change my way of thinking at any time on any issue? So far, we can still do that.

  25. About Jericho being proven to be older than Ur… I’m not aware that it was, but if it involved radiocarbon dating, well, I’ve never placed much stock in that method, anyway. Again, being as the Bible is an older manuscript than most other accounts, I go by it more than anything else for dating chronological events.

    Too many environmental elements influencing an accurate reading… there’s a lot of speculation over C-14 dating, now.

  26. The Bible, to me, is a means to an end… getting to the bottom of things… truth. If the Saturday funnies were the way to truth, I’d be into them.

    I go wherever it takes to find what I’m looking for. That’s why I like your blog, Dad. You’ve been places I haven’t. Some of it is pretty weird at first glance, but I will read it, and I know that people think some of the things that I write are weird, too.

    That’s life, I guess.

  27. I have to agree with Christopher. I will fight for anyone’s right to believe as they choose, but arguments based on bibical/religious thought are best to avoid.

  28. Uh-uh… Mirth. ALL views must be taken into account, or you are as guilty as those that would silence you for yours. You, by your last statement, effectively silenced me from expressing my views.

    Life is a two-way street, people.

  29. No Rocky, my comment did not, in any way, silence anything you want to say. I agreed with Christopher that such arguments are best to avoid. Speak your mind, brother.

  30. Clarification:
    I believe that arguments based on religious/bibical beliefs are best for ME to avoid.

  31. When religion (or ANY opinion or philosophy) becomes dogma for running the lives of everyone else, it’s wrong… and unconstitutional.

  32. Rocky, on this we agree.

  33. I believe that for any serious progress to be made with regard to issues regarding human rights and freedoms to be realized, ALL need to let go of their prejudices and biases, at least long enough to carefully consider the other’s view.

    I come from a very, VERY conservative religious background, and at this moment, am considered a rebel in my stand on issues in that realm. In fact, I’ve been ostracized from some circles that I once moved freely in, just for saying: “Yes, but what if…”

    I know PRECISELY what is thought in hierarchical circles, and have PERSONALLY felt the heat from their wrath. But… that kind of attitude is by no means EXCLUSIVE to religious people! I’ve encountered it in every walk of life. I call it human nature… a bent we all have, even unconsciously, to influence and even control others around us.

    I have that trait, too, and have to focus on not yielding to it. My religious training has an influence on me, but only in the intellectual department, not the emotional. At least, I try not to let it affect me, emotionally. I know there are those here that have had bad experiences with religion, and I sympathize with them. I’ll only say, try not to let any bad experience or bias keep you from truth no matter where it lies, or with whom.

    Just sayin’…

  34. You know they always say the two topics to avoid are politics and religion.

    When it comes to politics, I can’t wait to throw down
    and duke it out but with religion, well, I think it has to do with my Catholic upbringing.

    We were taught to respect others views and don’t judge. Maybe it’s the one good thing I took away from Catholicism, even though I left the Catholic church more than a decade ago.

  35. “We were taught to respect others views and don’t judge.”

    Good philosophy, Chris. I didn’t always… that’s what I strive for now.

  36. In my experience, people who adhere rigidly to religious dogma ignore facts and thus discussions with them are circular and get no where. Besides, there are many more beneficial arguments for us to have.

  37. I agree with the first part of your comment, Mirth, wholeheartedly. The last part could be taken subjectively.

    Religion forms the basis for many of humanity’s woes, and needs to be addressed. I agree, though, it doesn’t need to be the only subject for discussion.

    I like a little ‘mirth’ (in fact, a whole LOT!) in life, too!

    Speaking of which, Mirthy… did you check out the vid I posted? I nice little break from the tediousness of life! (I think!)

  38. Rocky, I freely admit that my thinking about religion is as rigid as any religious person’s. I believe that religion, at least as it is practiced, is the basis for all evil in the world…was, is, and unless we are able to rid ourselves of it, it will continue to be.
    I’ll be at your house to see the video asap.

  39. Wow, I see the gang has been playing since I’ve been doing research for tomorrow.

    Even after the 30 some-odd years I experienced ancient astronauts, the subject still brings on the passion!

    What foil! Oh boy!

  40. Ah religion!
    *sigh*
    I believe religion has been a force for both good and evil in the world but if you try to balance it out, I think the scales tip more to the evil side. Religion is potential unfullfilled. Enormous potential. (My statement applies to all religions)
    Potential wasted on adherance to dogma.

  41. Oh! To the subject of this post.

    I do find that there are some reasons to believe it is possible Earth has had ancient visitors that may have been seen as gods and perhaps later as angels. The Early mideaval paintings with UFOs and strange creatures in them have always intrigued me.

  42. D, Of course there are examples of religious-based good in the world. What I said is that religion is at the base of all evil in the world.

  43. Von Daniken was the premier advocate for ancient astronauts and the theory seemed perfectly logical to me at the time. Advanced alien visitors could be worshipped as gods, flying around in all kinds of vehicles, performing medical miracles, destroying cities with devastating weapons, what honest hunter-gatherer wouldn’t worship such awesome power?

    Sitchin is the first I’ve seen push the theory of planetary collisions and alien occupation.

    Now I’m going to play devil’s advocate here; according to present theories of evolution and exobiology (what little of it we surmise), the chances of another earth-like planet(s) producing another humanoid(s) species is astronomical (Star Trek not withstanding and the major complaint against it). The chances are better if other earth-type worlds produced intelligent carrots, snakes, trees or gas-bag floating type creatures even!

    And for an intelligent species to even have a technology to produce an interstellar space craft, they would have to be at least a Kardeshev Class II going onto Class III type civilization according to Dr. Michio Kaku. And if they’re that evolved, they might not even be flesh and blood, they could be virtuals in a computer probe the size of a soda can!

    I learned alot on the subject the past thirty years.

  44. OK, I’ll bite.

    I think it’s far more logical and even reasonable that the seeds or origins of life arrived via a meteor crashing on earth than a supreme being waving a magic wand and creating life as we know it.

    I also can’t accept that “God” was hangin’ one afternoon 10 billion years ago and bored, said, “Gee, I’ve got all this space to fill in the universe so I’ll create the stars and the planets and life.”

    It simply makes no sense to me.

    I think man created belief in God and religion and afterlife because we’re afraid to die. We’re thinking beings (conservatives aside) and the notion that our body stops and all that we know, our intellect, books we’ve read, music we’ve heard and people we’ve loved, all of those experiences one day come to a close, is more than we can comprehend, so we created belief in God and religion and an afterlife.

    It’s perfectly reasonable. I mean dying sucks.

  45. I agree with you, Christopher, about an extraterrestrial origin being a far more plausible explanation for life on earth, but I don’t see religious myths as benevolent, altho they may have that benefit. Instead, “God” and his laws and similar myths are for control…of people, of their practices, of their resources.

  46. Mirth,

    I respect everyone else’s world view but, mine departs from many if not the majority.

    I don’t mean to get all heavy here but, have you ever seen a 4 year old with terminal cancer? How can a kind and loving “God” let that happen? Or the victim of a serial killer? Didn’t the victim tithe enough on Sunday?

    No thanks. I don’t want a relationship with that type of “God.”

  47. Christopher, I can grasp the idea of free choice and letting this world evolve naturally, but if that’s the case for a grand plan for earth, the one who decided it doesn’t deserve my worship.

  48. Control of the world under a single world government has been in the works for 220 years. It has been a long, well thought out multi-generational plan.

    Some people say that this is the work of ‘Lucifer’.

    Whether it’s a ‘supernatural creature’ or a post-singularity alien creature indistinguishable from supernatural, the point is probably moot since we would have no way of combatting such a being.

    What makes me mad is that ‘somebody’ or ‘something’ has the audacity to decide things they don’t have a right to decide. There’s my ticket to a FEMA camp to die a slow, rotting death. F*ck them.

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