Here’s a comment I received on my Tinfoil Multiverse thread a while back:
Just because you throw the phrase “quantum physics” around doesnt mean you (a) know what the hell you’re talking about or (b) the universe is mysterious beyond comprehension.
Scientists don’t fear quantum physics (I am an active scientist, and I have never, ever feared QP); QP is a part of modern science. yes, it’s wierd from a classical/Newtonian view of the universe, but that’s no reason to fear it. There is a vast difference between QP and woo-woo mysticism:
The former makes demonstrable, falsifiable claims about the universe, which can be (and are) experimentally verified and discarded if necessary; the latter does no such thing.
edge100 – June 22nd, 2007 at 4:26 pm
Wow, my first scientist, and he flamed me!. Oh well, it’s to be expected as I’ve learned, the hard way of course. He didn’t like the way I bandied about “quantum mechanics/physics”.(actual quote: “Quantum mechanics is some weird shit. Most scientists don’t like to use it because it often explodes their own little pet theories/dogmas. As I always said and continue to say, ‘there’s more to reality than our puny five senses.” If we knew what the whole truth was, we wouldn’t even get out of bed!”) It wasn’t in the thread, it was a comment I made, the first one in fact.
So my response was in effect, show me, I want to learn and explain in layman’s terms. Here’s the response:
Quantum physics is not the explanation for all things we cannot explain. It IS difficult to grasp (”if you think you understand QP, you don’t understand QP”, is the standard quote), but it makes predictions, which are experimentally verifiable. Until “ghosts, hauntings…” etc are subjected to experimental verification, this is just woo woo hypothesizing (and it’s barely that).
But my real beef was with the comment you made:
“Quantum mechanics is some weird shit. Most scientists don’t like to use it because it often explodes their own little pet theories/dogmas.”
QM is the subject of active research, by real scientists, who publish their work in real journals, which are reviewed by other real scientists. It explodes classical mechanics, but this is the way science works: theories are developed, based on real data, that explain a given phenomenon. If new data is obtained that does not fit the theory, the theory is modified and/or discarded. BUT, any new theory must explain why the old theory SEEMED to be correct. Special relativity (another ‘hard-to-understand-using-conventional-thinking’ theory) destroyed Newtonian mechanics, but suggested why the latter APPEARED to be correct (SR simplifies to Newtonian mechanics at velocities that are very low with respect to the speed of light).
“As I always said and continue to say, ‘there’s more to reality than our puny five senses.”
There is, of course, more to reality than our five senses (which is why we have devices that can detect information that is beyond our senses). But that doesn’t imply any of the things discussed above.
Quantum physics does not predict anything and everything, but it often gets used to justify things that seem “wierd”.
Ok, Dr. edge100 believes that quantum physics doesn’t predict anything and everything and he doesn’t like the way it gets used to explain “weird” stuff (use a spell checker “Doc”). Fine, I would buy that except for some pretty smart people who say quantum science might explain some weird shit:
- Why do ‘particles’ appear to affect each other at a distance, no matter the distance?
Answer: There are no such things as ‘particles’ according to Milo Wolffe:
It is the purpose of this article to explain the origin and cause of the strange instantaneous events associated with these laws. We will show that causality is not actually being violated. Instead, the strange events are merely appearances, “shaumkamm” in the words of Irwin Schroedinger. They were created by our former incomplete knowledge of the Wave Structure of Matter and of the energy exchange mechanism of quantum wave structures. All communication is actually at velocity c. Source
That’s novel, Wave Function Theory, never heard of it, wonder if Dr. edge100 has? Is it ‘woo-hoo mysticism’?
Because here’s the counter theory to that:
Quantum physics tries to explain the behavior of even smaller particles. These particles are things like electrons, protons, and neutrons. Quantum physics even describes the particles which make these particles! That’s right; the model of an atom that you were taught in high-school is wrong. The electrons don’t orbit like planets; they form blurred clouds of probabilities around the nucleus. Source.
Different theories about the same science? Which is ‘woo-hoo mysticism’? Who’s right? The model of the atom taught to us in school is wrong. Hmmph. And isn’t probabilities something like throwing dice continuously, like for a very long time?
And didn’t Einstein say something like, “You believe in the God who plays dice, and I in complete law and order in a world which objectively exists, and which I, in a wildly speculative way, am trying to capture. I hope that someone will discover a more realistic way, or rather a more tangible basis than it has been my lot to find. Even the great initial success of the Quantum Theory does not make me believe in the fundamental dice-game, although I am well aware that our younger colleagues interpret this as a consequence of senility. No doubt the day will come when we will see whose instinctive attitude was the correct one. (Albert Einstein to Max Born, Sept 1944, ‘The Born-Einstein Letters’) Source
How ’bout that, the Father of Quantum Physics doesn’t like his child much. He must’ve thought it was ‘woo-hoo’ mysticism.
My point is that today’s “woo-hoo” mysticism could be tomorrow’s accepted theory and the unforeseen future’s truth. Why couldn’t Paul Eno be right? Just because his theory doesn’t fit present dogma and can’t be proven with “physical evidence”, without instrumentation to measure any effects? Present particle/wave theories couldn’t be tested until particle accelerators became available. Who’s to say that some machine won’t be invented that extracts a “wormhole” from the “quantum foam” and expands it wide enough to see a “parallel universe” using a Casimir device?
No, I am not a scientist, hold a PhD, a published author, a professional researcher or any of that, I never claimed to. I have a blog that is dedicated to asking hard questions about politics, conspiracy theories, science-fiction and science. Especially dogma of any type. I love to question that. Along with authority.
Like Milo Wolffe says, “Most scientists will deny any new truths”. Source
North American Union Updates (NAU):
New World Order Updates (NWO):
This is the last of ol’ dad’s postings for a while, maybe a day or two, doctor’s orders to cut down on computer screen flashings and all. Might be aggravating the epilepsy he says. Who knows. Just comment away on my rants if you want. If anybody has other good info on the NAU or NWO, pass it on to Uber Highwayman or link to here. Cheers.
We’ve discussed Roswell and the government’s involvement, uninvolvement or nonincident as they claim before. But as the 60th anniversary of the Roswell story looms, interest once again is piqued. The official government claim that was made in 1995, and thusly proclaimed “the final story” is that the crash was from experimental balloons, which is where the “silvery material” comes in, and the “crash-test dummies” were the “aliens” that the soldiers saw.
Okay, I could buy that, being this was the beginning experiments of the early space program and the period being “The Cold War” and all. But the government changed the “story” so many times over the years and adding the CIA to the mix with its history of disinformation and all leaves reasonable doubt about the credibility of the U.S. government’s “official” story.
Look at this clip of a movie shot right after the Airforce recovered the “bodies” from the crash site and tell me if high ranking officers would be so excited over crash test dummies, especially one guy who comes rushing in. The quality of the clip is poor, but you can see the “body” in a couple of good glimpses:
The documentary itself, posted on UFO.Whipnet.org was recent and made on June 26, 2007. It has four parts with interviews of the people who were actually there at the site, or the are relatives who heard the story from the source.
Also here is some history about the Alien Autopsy Film (which might have something to do with the above film clip) that was broadcast in 1995 and later debunked. According to the author, a real movie might exist, but the one that was sold to the network didn’t jive with actual eyewitnesses:
The final method of authenticating a document is by outside references. Does the new find explain old questions? Does it fit with the evidence given by other witnesses? Hitler’s surviving confidants were adamant the Nazi leader did not keep a personal diary. In the case of the Roswell Incident, the testimony of those who claim to have seen saucer wreckage and alien corpses does not tally with the images on Santilli’s film. The Roswell witnesses said the dead ETs had four fingers on each hand, not six. They were little more than three feet tall, not over five feet. The Roswell aliens were spindly creatures without the robust build of the things photographed by the elusive Jack Barnett.
June Crain, a secretary with a top security clearance at Wright-Patterson Airforce Base also was a very credible witness to the Roswell story. Her story is here.
The U.S. government will never come clean on Roswell, there’s been too many cover-ups, CIA disinformation psy-ops and eyewitnesses that were there are dying. Scientists claim that the discovery of extraterrestrial intelligence would be the greatest moment in human history, why would the government cover such a thing up? Control for one thing. If people realized that they weren’t alone in the Cosmos, they would be more apt to try to get along together, among the secular crowd anyway. The world religions would suffer and would likely implode, unless the aliens prove to be supernatural or some such thing. In that case, I would invoke Clarke’s Third Law that states, “…any sufficiently advanced culture (technology) would seem magical to us…”. As long as knowledge of extraterrestrials are kept secret, the NWO can keep control through ignorance.
But maybe the NWO is subservient to the aliens already? What if we’ve already been sold into servitude? That would be a real good reason to keep it shut up. My buddy Uber Highwayman would dispute this theory, saying the NWO actually is subservient to Lucifer, an even more wackier tinfoil theory he would say. But as I asked the question over 30 years ago, “What if God was an alien?” and entered that strange land of tinfoil madness, I ask again, “Do we worship super-beings that claim god-like powers?”. And are we their property? Tinfoil for further study? You bet. I haven’t had my question answered to my satisfaction yet.
It comes as no surprise to me and other anti-NWO folk that Dick Cheney declared the office of the Vice President of the United States as not part of the executive branch of our government and thusly, above the law. And quickly following suit with “Unca Dick”, Georgie-Porgie has not only declared his office above the law, he boasts as Sly Stallone did as Judge Dread, “I am da law!”:
The Constitution assigns power to Congress to write the laws and asserts that the president has an obligation ”to take care that the laws be faithfully executed.” Bush, however, has repeatedly declared that he does not need to ”execute” a law he believes is unconstitutional.
“…last month new legislation was signed which declares that in the event of a “catastrophic event”, the President can take total control over the government and the country, bypassing all other levels of government at the state, federal, local, territorial and tribal levels, and thus ensuring total unprecedented dictatorial power.”
Which begs the question, “Are we even going to bother having elections in 2008 because of some perceived “national emergency” that was declared, or is the incoming President going to have the same dictatorial powers if he/she is a member of the “opposition Party?””
In my view, it does not really matter because both political parties in this country are two horns on the same beast, with some slight ideology differences still. Both parties are beholden to banking, finance, energy interests and the AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) though and I see little to change that in the short term. All of these follow the interests of the NWO and not the citizens of the U.S. or the world.
We are one incident from total martial law and institutionalized dictatorship. And no amount of American Idol, Survivor, Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, Anna Nicole or any other kind of propaganda will be needed any longer as the veil falls to reveal the monster from within.
As the rhetoric for war against Iran is increasing in the United States and Israel, the “mis”translation of Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s speech in 2005 is spread through-out the American corporate media on a daily basis. Even as the “fight” the Democrats are waging in the halls of Congress against the imperial policy in Iraq goes on, the same party that promised change in the Fall 2006 election nods its’ collective head in favor of an attack on Iran during a recent visit by Israeli PM Olmert. The translation of Ahmadinejad’s speech being propagandized, “…Israel must be wiped off the map…” (I’m paraphrasing here) is central in spreading the meme through-out the brain-dead electorate of the U.S. The actual translation, “…regime that is occupying Qods [Jerusalem] must be eliminated from the pages of history…” is of course, rarely seen in the media markets. In fact, the only time I have seen this translation is on the Internet.
MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute) specializes in distorting Middle-Eastern languages in the translation process:
In essence, what MEMRI does is change the context of news stories by way of mistranslation and excision. Call it MEMRI loss, the deliberate mangling of media. MEMRI did this to Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad by turning a speech he delivered in 2005 into a racist and genocidal screed.
Counter-acting this propaganda has been an uphill battle. Juan Cole of Informed Comment and Kurt Nimmo of Another Day In The Empire have been a couple of the leaders of the charge, especially Professor Cole, who is a Middle Eastern specialist and President of the Global Americana Institute.
I think the efforts of various people across the alternative media has slowed down the Iranian genocide parade, but the corporate media has been pushing a new offensive this summer. The fight goes on.
From Another Day In The Empire:
From Informed Comment:
Suzie-Q recently awarded this blog with The Thinking Blogger Award, an honor to be sure. My humble abode here isn’t your standard type political blog, nor is it a pure science/science fiction site either. It is what it is, a conspiracy theory/tinfoil hat nutsoid home for the weird and not so weird. And to heed some warnings also. You can take it seriously, or not. It’s a place to spew my various rantings and sci-fi stuff.
But anyway, I am remiss in that I haven’t fulfilled my duties as a recipient of this fine award, so I will remedy that forthwith with my five choices for thinking blogs:
- Prison Planet : Every good conspiracy theorist should link to Alex Jones. His politics has a Libertarian bent, not very suitable for liberal tastes, but an excellent source for anti-Iraq War, NWO, Bilderberg and anti-neocon articles. Also 9/11 updates.
- AntiWar.com : Another anti-NWO/neocon site. It’s top reporter Justin Raimondo is a true anti-globalist. He’s Libertarian too, but he tells it like it is. This site also features articles by Seymour Hersh.
- Orion’s Arm : Not a political site, a science-fiction one. Features hard science sci-fi in the tradition of Clarke, Brin and Reynolds. Stretch your brain a bit and visit this site.
- oldephartteintraining : What makes you think here is trying to spell opit’s name.( just kidding opit pal. ;-)) Opit is the WordPress Wikipedia. He doesn’t write much and he professes not to, but his library of links is priceless.
- White Noise Insanity : I might be mistaken here, but I haven’t seen anybody mention KayInMaine yet. It was here that many people talked me into starting my own blog. Now most of the people who comment there are liberal, or hard-core liberal in their politics and I warned them about what kind of stuff I might write about or post if I did start a blog. So I did. I gained some friends and lost a couple too, but I learned alot, probably more than I bargained. But I owe it to Kay to mention her site. She’s hard core liberal too, but she walks the walk, and talks the talk. She’s heavily involved in Maine politics and has attended many political functions in the state. Currently she’s heavily involved in getting Tom Allen elected U.S. Senator to replace Susan “Baby-talk” Collins. Her blog is one of the most “hit” in the listings and the neocons seriously hate her guts. In fact, most of her “trolls” are from Texas. I wonder why?
I know I’m only supposed to mention five, but I have a couple of honorable mentions:
- Liberally Mirth : Mirth and I have had our differences and I deeply apologize for that. But she’s passionate about what she believes in and is an activist in her own right about global issues, especially poor children caught in the middle of war. Again Mirth, deepest apologies and you are a warrior too.
- From The Left : I know Christopher has been mentioned by others, and for good reason. His postings are always timely and on target. I wish I got as many hits on my site like these two I just mentioned.
There you are Suzie-Q, there’s more that deserve your prize I’m sure. Have a toast to yourself too!
Some short stuff today from some of my fellow NWO warriors:
From Prison Planet:
It’s in the bag folks!
More neocon ‘creative destruction’.
Double down folks!
From the Conspiracy Archive:
Modern media advertising. I studied Skinner in college. Do you think his methods work?
This is worse than nuclear warfare in my opinion!
This is my take on the Sunday Bobble-head talk-show circuit. What say you?
Remember the Pioneer spacecrafts, numbers 10 and 11 respectively? These machines were the precursors to the two Voyagers that first mapped the Outer Solar System, and thusly were the first human made items to leave our little star system. (The Voyagers received more press).
Well, it seems that some unknown force, other than gravity is having an effect on them and is altering their trajectory outside of the Solar System:
The ‘Pioneer anomaly’ – the mystifying observation that NASA’s two Pioneer spacecraft have drifted far off their expected paths – cannot be explained by tinkering with the law of gravity, a new study concludes.
The study’s author suggests an unknown, but conventional, force is instead acting on the spacecraft. But others say even more radical changes to the laws of physics could explain the phenomenon.
Launched in the early 1970s, NASA’s Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft are drifting out of the solar system in opposite directions, gradually slowing down as the Sun’s gravity pulls back on them.
But they are slowing down slightly more than expected and no one knows why. Some physicists say the law of gravity itself needs revising, so that gravity retains more strength in the outer solar system. But there has been disagreement about whether such modifications would accurately predict the orbits of the outer planets.
But Kjell Tangen, a physicist at the firm DNV in Hovik, Norway says there might be a more conventional explanation:
“…conventional physics – such as drag due to dust grains in space, or the emission of heat from small nuclear generators on board, known as RTGs, in some directions more than others – probably causes the anomaly, Tangen says. But he admits a definitive cause remains elusive.”
That’s big of him. At least the guy isn’t as hide-bound as other scientists when faced with an anomaly, he left an out.
Read the story; Exotic cause of ‘Pioneer anomaly’ in doubt
Here’s one for you “Cool Fuels” people:
A recipe for fuel: take the carbohydrates like starch and cellulose that make up the majority of plants. Use enzymes to break them down into fructose, the sugar found in fruits and honey. Mix this fructose with salt water and hydrochloric acid. Add a solvent—in this case butanol also derived from plant matter—to protect the resulting hydroxymethylfurfural (HMF) from reacting with the water, then extract it. This versatile molecule can be used to create plastic polymers or other chemicals. And by the way, adding a copper-coated ruthenium catalyst can also convert the HMF to DMF (2,5-dimethylfuran), a fuel that provides more energy than ethanol.
“It should be a great fuel,” says James Dumesic, a chemical engineer at the University of Wisconsin–Madison, who, along with his colleagues, discovered the new process, “DMF has the energy density of petroleum.”
I don’t know squat about alternative fuels, I just thought if it came down to it, I would just start using my old tired feet again if I couldn’t afford to buy gas anymore. Maybe they’ll get this alternative fuel thing down to a science, but until they do, I’ll just buy me a good pair of walking shoes, break them in, and then save them for that inevitable day. A new process can turn plants into energy-dense fuel
Here’s an article from Space.com that kind of ties in with the virtual reality theme from yesterday.
Imagine that you want to be an astronaut on a mission to Mars, but for some reason you can’t? Enter the European Space Agency:
The European Space Agency is calling for volunteers to participate in “Mars500,” a nearly two-year-long simulation of a journey to the Red Planet, the organization announced in a recent statement. The goal of the experiment is to prepare “for future human exploration missions to Mars.”
“We are currently looking for volunteers to take part in a 520-day simulated Mars mission,” according to an ESA statement released Tuesday. “To go to Mars is still a dream and one of the last gigantic challenges.”
During the simulation, men and women “Martianauts,” as you might call them, will watch Earth disappear into the blackness of space as they munch on the same kinds of food available on the International Space Station. ESA will even attempt to simulate the 40-minute time delay for radio signals to travel from the craft to Earth and back, as the volunteers work and live in extremely isolated conditions.
Once the group “arrives,” about half-way through the simulation, they will explore the faux surface of Mars, the statement said. The entire experiment is expected to be carried out in a 2,150-square-foot facility in Moscow-about the floor space of a two-story house.
The ESA plans to ramp up to the long simulation with two 105-day studies starting in mid-2008, for which they also seek volunteers. The 520-day simulation would follow in late 2008 or early 2009, according to the statement.
Four volunteers will be selected for each of the missions.
Do you want to volunteer? Just beware of that brain-computer interface!
Second Life is a virtual reality world created by its users, or “residents” if you will. Each resident is an “avatar” (virtual representative) of a real world person using Second Life. The following is a brief description:
Second Life is a 3-D virtual world entirely built and owned by its residents. Since opening to the public in 2003, it has grown explosively and today is inhabited by a total of 7,430,553 people from around the globe.
- From the moment you enter the World you’ll discover a vast digital continent, teeming with people, entertainment, experiences and opportunity. Once you’ve explored a bit, perhaps you’ll find a perfect parcel of land to build your house or business.
- You’ll also be surrounded by the Creations of your fellow residents. Because residents retain the rights to their digital creations, they can buy, sell and trade with other residents.
- The Marketplace currently supports millions of US dollars in monthly transactions. This commerce is handled with the in-world unit-of-trade, the Linden dollar, which can be converted to US dollars at several thriving online Linden Dollar exchanges.
Second Life is now attempting to merge with Google Earth to form Second Earth. All that means is that your avatar currently in the Second Life world can be placed in the Google Earth real-time environment. The avatar also has the same abilities in the ” World Wide Sim” as they would in Second Life.
I came across an article yesterday while doing research about Second Life being in legal and financial trouble (link) because of the virtual casinos in relation with the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act and its problems linking computers that have Microsoft Vista operating systems (Link).
Merging Second Life with Google Earth would be a sound financial move on Linden Labs part since Google has broad corporate and government support. That connection could literally save the life of Second Life in the real world.
And another big beef with SL is that your avatar is only controlled through mouse movements and keyboard actions like any other chatroom. Again the technology has to catch up with the concept!
But imagine when direct brain to computer interfaces (BCIs) become feasible, Second Life’s population is bound to explode! I wonder if the inhabitants would rewrite the software to suit the resulting boom?
I wonder if anyone thought of that?
The NWO possibly?