Werner Von Braun and Roswell

As I mentioned in a previous thread (yesterday in fact) stories about the 1947 Roswell Incident keep popping up, usually after a key witness dies, or by a second-hand witness who knew the individual involved.

Clark C. McClellend was a science officer who served in the Space Shuttle Fleet and was a member of NASA 1958 to 1992. He claims to have worked with German scientists who emigrated to the U.S. under the auspices of “Operation Paperclip” (program to smuggle prominent Nazis out of East/West Germany). One of which is the most famous, Werner Von Braun, founder of the U.S. Space and Ballistic Missile Programs.

McClellend’s story seems to be an independent  confirmation of June Crain’s story, that the German scientists after they came to America worked on the New Mexican crash site debris the first eight months they were in country, Von Braun being one of them:

During my long years of service in our national space program, I was very fortunate to come to know and exchange some very exciting data with former German scientists, who had been brought to the USA under Operation Paper Clip following WW II. These men were the elite of the German rocket programs controlled by Adolph Hitler. On many occasions I had the distinct privilege of speaking with Dr. Wernher von Braun, the leader of the elite group, and several other scientists who were assigned to the ABMA (Army Ballistics Missile Agency) launch crews at the Cape Canaveral launch sites. Eventually, these same men were incorporated into the new National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) organization. During the periodic MFA (Manned Flight Awareness) meetings that were held at Cocoa Beach, I was able to talk freely and briefly with such scientists, particularly Dr. von Braun.
 
On one such occasion, he and I had taken a break and stepped out of the Cocoa Beach Ramada Inn into the back patio. I admitted that I was aware that he and his German Scientific team were located not too far from the crash site at that time. They were launching captured V-2 rockets from the White Sands Testing Range. On this night, I asked him a question concerning the Roswell Incident that caused his eyebrows to raise.
 
Did the Roswell Incident in fact happen, was an alien craft recovered along with alien bodies? Did you have a chance to go to the crash site?”
 
Dr von Braun was a cigarette smoker and he lit one up. He thought for a second, then proceeded to talk freely about his inspection of the crashed craft.
 
He trusted me to hear such astonishing events because I vowed to not report it to newspapers, magazines, television, etc. I never broke that vow. Since he is deceased, and the incident happened over fifty years ago, I am now disclosing what I heard. I have a right to speak about anything – even things that, according to certain agencies, “do not exist.”
 
Dr. von Braun explained how he and his (unnamed, for now) associates had been taken to the crash site after most of the military were pulled back. They did a quick analysis of what they found. He told me the craft did not appear to be made of metal as we know metal on earth. He said it seemed to be created from something biological, like skin. I was lost as to what he indicated, other than thinking perhaps the craft was “alive.” The recovered bodies were temporarily being kept in a nearby medical tent. They were small, very frail and had large heads. Their eyes were large. Their skin was grayish and reptilian in texture. He said it looked similar to the skin texture of rattle snakes he’d seen several times at White Sands. His inspection of the debris had even him puzzled: very thin, aluminum colored, like silvery chewing gum wrappers. Very light and extremely strong. The interior of the craft was nearly bare of equipment, as if the creatures and craft were part of a single unit.
 
That’s when I became lost in the moment. We returned to the awards ceremony, in which he participated, later bidding farewell. I went home with my head spinning from all I had heard. Keeping this quiet for many years was very difficult, especially with the temptations of having many friends and associates who believe in UFOs, ETs, etc. I never released this amazing data to Major Keyhoe and NICAP, or the public, until now. I considered my honor sacred when a vow was made.

Promises made by individuals which get released upon moment of death would seem to be credible information at first glance. McClellend makes a good witness because military and space operations people are trained to be observant and to have a sense of duty and honor. Telling lies to spread an agenda wouldn’t be in this particular person’s personality would it? Would he clam up instead of telling a lie?

You have to remember, this was in a generation when a man’s word was his honor and a hand-shake was as good as a written contract. But as my friend Uber Highwayman is fond of saying, “Trust nobody who is beholding to the Government for their pay, because the NWO is close by pulling the strings”. (Okay, I’m probably paraphrasing here, but am I close, yes?).

My point is that even with seemingly credible witnesses, the NWO might be spreading disinformation to cover for other projects and/or crimes. One needs to continue self education and vigilance.

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16 responses

  1. I would love nothing more than confirmation that Earth is part of a Galactic Community, but one must face realities of a possible hostile Galaxy and a secret world government that might have made a pact with a galactic faction that view humans as no better than we view bacteria.

  2. I can’t wrap my mind around this enough to have even an opinion of truth, but those German scientists achieved their fame on the backs of slave labor worked to death before another group was brought in to build the rockets, and they were sneaked out of Germany by this greedy and immoral country and thus escaped punishment and that alone shuts off my brain as to their truth-telling.

  3. It’s true that Von Braun used slave labor to build his Nazi V-2 rockets, many died because of him and others in projects like this.

    As for Von Braun’s veracity concerning Roswell, like I said, this could all be propaganda lying for mass consumption and McClellend could be a pawn in the spreading of it.

    And you’re right Mirthy, the United States sold it’s soul to the devil when it brought in those Nazi war criminals for the sake of military superiority.

    As you can see, the disease has spread and metastasized.

    1. Paul Spresser | Reply

      However, the Russians did the same. With the later letting of the atomic bomb secrets out of the bag, it was wise indeed to use whatever you could from the former Nazi Reich. The capture of advanced aircraft or advanced minds makes no difference.

      If there was no credible counter offensive from USA ICBM, based on V2 rockets and later variations of this design, you could well be speaking Russian now.

  4. It’s simply shameful that our country has come to this! War criminals in the White House!

  5. Good point dad,we are probably the bacteria in the big picture of life forms in our own galaxy, and we might learn more studying the microcosm than what we hear about the rest of the universe. Like they say, “we ain’t seen nuthin yet “.
    As above so below…G:

  6. Much wisdom G, not bad advice.

  7. Maybe the German scientists thought it was all part of a “jewish conspiracy?” After all, the seeds of anti-semitism were alive and well within the German intelligensia by this point.

  8. I would say most of Europe has a history of anti-semitism, going way back to the Middle Ages.

    I was checking out a site yesterday that mapped out the neocon agenda accurately, only the site owner claimed it was from the Protocols of Zion.

    Most Jews aren’t Zionists, they detest them because Zionists are/were Communists. If you remember, the neocons were originally Trotsky-ite Communists back in the 1930s. The idea then was the spread of Communism through revolution and Creative Destruction. Sound familiar? The neocons obviously still believe in spreading ideology through revolution and creative destruction. Only they claim to be spreading “freedom and democracy” this time.

    Yeah sure, OK.

  9. How can more then two individuals keep that kind of secret about aliens in Roswell Texas for all this time its unbelievable, and to keep a promise to a former Nazi, is beyond words.

    Something happen that’s for sure, but like what, that’s the 64 dollar question,
    Sorry, but you have to show me proof of alien life or evidence, just because
    you say we are not alone doesn’t means there is life out there!

  10. Hi dad2059…

    I tried to post a reply to Frank Carter’s comment and it came up as “discarded” which is a Akismet “first” for me…?!

    Carl Nemo **==

  11. I don’t know Carl, your comment wasn’t in the Akismet spam que or anything. Try again.

    Akismet doesn’t like you much it seems, but I appreciate your feedback Carl!

  12. I tried to post again, but it comes up instantly as “discarded”…?!

    What’s interesting about this phenomena is that this material are my thoughts concerning the origin of UFO’s and USO’s and was eliminated from the web within a week or less when I originally posted the material back in February 2007 after the O’Hare UFO sighting.

    Even Google’s “cached” versions were eliminated. I received alot of kudos for the material. Many people said they had never thought of UFO’s or USO’s in the way I had described their origins. Who knows, maybe I’ve inadvertently stepped into the “Forbidden Zone” ; too close to the truth…?

    Carl Nemo **==

  13. Hi dad2059…

    Give me a channel to you; ie., email addy so I can send you my reply to Frank Carter concerning his reply to a 10 month old posting on your site. My email addy is Nemo666net9a@Yahoo.com. Then you can see if you as the site owner can post my thoughts concerning aliens etc. Ah, there’s nothing like intrigues… : )

    Carl Nemo **==

  14. This is a reply to Frank Crater from Carl Nemo:

    Hi Frank Carter…

    “Sorry, but you have to show me proof of alien life or evidence, just because you say we are not alone doesn’t mean there is life out there!” …extract from your commentary.

    rephrased…Sorry, but you have to show me proof that God exists or evidence, just because you say that a god exists doesn’t mean that it’s so…!

    Possibly you are a Christian, Jew or of some other persuasion, you attend services etc., but even if not and you believe there’s a higher being; ie., a ‘sky-daddy’ watching over you, then your seemingly sound doubtfulness should remain the same. If you are an agnostic or atheist then there’s no problem. Preferably as an agnostic you’ll at least have an open mind concerning the possible existence of a ‘sky-daddy’ type of god and even the possibility of UFO’s without having anymore concrete evidence than you do for a belief in a god.

    What’s interesting is there are tens of thousands of sitings that have been catalogued not only in modern times, but down through the ages.

    The following is an extract from some comments I made post an O’Hare airport UFO siting on February 27, 2007 on Capitol Hill Blue, a news forum. The political slant aspects of the post has been removed.

    *****
    I’ve done extensive research and cross-referencing on this subject; ie., UFO’s including USO’s (unidentified submersible objects). Maybe the UFO’s are not from “out there”; but they, the occupants, are co-habitating our planet. Most people don’t understand the concept of “deep time” a term coined by Stephen J. Gould a Harvard based paleontologist.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould

    In some of his writings he tried to impress upon his readers the meaning of deep time; i.e., the age of the earth, the origin of species from bacteria to higher lifeforms etc. When I study the alien grey physiology that’s most commonly witnessed you’ll notice they have a reptilian/insectoid look about them. Mankind, our species first emerged from the muck of deeptime about 5 million years ago with dinasauroids and insectoids many hundreds of millions years earlier.

    The dinosaurs disappeared via a mass-extinction 65 million years ago post a Yucatan peninsula impact leaving a whopping 60 million years between their demise and the emergence of primitive man.

    What if, just what if, a sapient, dinosauria class of beings had evolved and survivied in those times…? They didn’t extinct themselves but rose up as a highly advanced civilizaton and didn’t falter due to the meddling of religion, statist inefficiencies, and a host of other baggage that we as humans have had to suffer. They had the luck of an unpunctuated ascendancy to an extremely high-order scientifically based paradigm.

    If you think about it most of the great marvels of our age have come about since WWII especially post Roswell 1947. Granted the foundations for much of science were laid out from the 18th century onward, but the quantum leap in our technology and science has basically occurred in the past 60+ years.

    The Romans were quite advanced as a culture, but then the “barbarians at the gate” overthrew this once great empire that stood for a thousand years. Then the dark ages came upon us, lasting about 600 years. The Catholic church was building it’s power base and suppressed all knowledge up to and including that of Galileo and somewhat beyond. Visualize a society of sapient beings of the dinosauria class; the winner of this sub-species race would have been those dinosaurs that had the benefit of the opposing thumb-like appendages for hands, a rapidly evolving brain and excellent binocular vision. Their civilization advanced in an uninterrupted fashion by a fluke of nature and circumstance. They managed to move from simple science to very high science including “nanotechological” skills allowing them to excel in strength of materials technology, propulsion, including super-cavitating underwater propulsion systems as witnessed with USO’s. They managed to perfect a manufacturing base that’s very low impact being able to manufacture materials one atom at a time; ie., nanotechnology. They live in highly advanced subterranean chambers supported by technology we can only imagine.

    Electronic control assemblies are virtually integrated into the structure themselves and the ability to control devices without any visible instrumentalities other than through direct mind control for the operation of their technology. They’ve re-engineered themselves via highly advanced genetic engineering into beings that no longer need food as we need it, nor sexual coupling to reproduce. They live for a long time and their numbers are intentionally limited, unlike humans who are virtually reproducing themselves to oblivion. They reached the pinnacle of their scientific accomplishment “millions” of years before homo sapiens crawled out of the muck of deep-time. They’ve witnessed our evolution, our advancement, and our periodic regression. They are “watching” us. They are probably hoping that we eventually “do ourselves” and give the planet a rest from our mindless exploitation. I think of them as “the watchers”. They sample our DNA, they intervene on occasion, try their best to help us, but evidently to no avail. Our primitive biological imperative to compete, to make war upon ourselves is something that is quite difficult to change. It’s our link to our basic animal nature, no different than the leopard, the cheetah, the jaguar etc.

    We as a species, are highly competitive, territorial, warmongering predators. They the “watchers” are simply witnessing our self-demise. We seem as neanderthals or less to them; dragging our MIC clubs in the mud, with our collective, squinting predatory lear as we plan our next acquisition; ie., business coup, war for natural resources or whatever, all at the peril of our brethren; ie., humanity and our fellow creatures and flora for which hominids feel little to no kinship.

    So have no fear of mysterious flying craft. They are simply witnessing our ongoing species specific stupidity… :))

    It is well that they haven’t given us any concrete evidence of their existence to this point. As outlined in my narrative, we all know the evil that men do…no?

    An enjoyable read concerning my aforementioned possibility of the ufonauts co-existing with us on earth is “Subterranean Worlds Inside Earth” by Timothy Green Beckley a 1992 Inner Light Publication where the author brings many accounts of such beings under one cover. Some of it seems like so much hokum, but there’s enough thought provoking material in the book to make it a worthwhile read.

    http://www.amazon.com/Subterranean-Worlds-Inside-Timothy-Beckley/dp/0938294229

    Carl Nemo **==

    from dad2059

    He sent it to me by email Frank, my spam filter wouldn’t let it through.

    I have my filter set high because I’ve been spam attacked before. Obviously some people don’t like what I post at times.

    But feel free to respond to Carl’s comment Frank. This is an old post and I don’t have anything to add to it.

  15. Thanks dad2059 for the post assist… : )

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