…thought J. Robert Oppenheimer after witnessing the Trinity explosion near Alamogordo , New Mexico on July 16, 1945. In fact the whole quote is; “We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, ‘Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.’ I suppose we all thought that one way or another.”
Oppenheimer studied Sanskrit and read the Bhagavad Gita in the original language, thus was the source of the “quote”. The quote itself is in dispute, according to Oppenheimer’s brother Frank, he simply stated “It worked.” He might’ve said that, but I don’t believe that was what he was thinking at the time. Oppenheimer was at Rochester University seven years later and was asked this question; “ Was the Alamogordo nuclear test the first atomic bomb ever to be detonated?”, his reply was; “Well, yes, in modern history.” What did he mean? Was the Bhagavad-Gita a record of actual history, not a made-up myth?
Christopher of From The Left asked me a while back if I had heard of large areas of “green glass” that is a by-product of nuclear explosions found in certain areas of Pakistan, Libya and Egypt. At that time, I couldn’t find any sources that could confirm that. But recently I found out about an individual named Michael Cremo. Cremo has studied in India and has written a couple of books titled Forbidden Archeology and Human Devolution. The premise of these tomes is that human beings have a broader, grander and more ancient history upon this Earth than mainstream science would have us believe (Yes Uber Highwayman, you told me so, but isn’t independent confirmation nice also?).
Along with Richard L. Thompson, Cremo gives the story of creation and human history from the Hindu point of view. And they give some pretty evidence for this also (OOparts and out of time human remains).
So where am I going with this? The idea of mankind being so ancient as to beggar the mind gives rise to the case of ancient civilizations that were just as advanced, if not more than our present one. In the case of Christian and Hindu creationists, mankind started out as a supreme, spiritual entity that for some reason (disobeying God, sinning or walking the dharmic path through animal incarnations) and has suffered through many cycles of civilization, wars, stagnation and cultural rebirth. But after each cycle of war and rebirth, the human race “devolves” a little bit more and thus distances itself from the true Universe and the meaning of all things. We become more “materialistic”, “out of touch” and more miserable because we have lost the ancient knowledge.
The last “cycle” we have our legends of “Atlantis”, “Empire of Rama” and the “Kingdom of Osiris”. The following is from a piece posted in Nexus Magazine 2000:
A wonder to modern-day researchers, the cities were highly developed and advanced. The way that each city was laid out in regular blocks, with streets crossing each other at right angles and the entire city laid out in sections, gives archaeologists cause to believe that the cities were conceived as a whole before they were built–a remarkable early example of city planning. Even more remarkable is that the plumbing/sewage systems throughout the large cities were so sophisticated–superior to those found in Pakistan, India and many Asian countries today. Sewers were covered, and most homes had private toilets and running water. Furthermore, the water and sewage systems were kept well separated. This advanced culture had its own writing, which has never been deciphered. The people used personalised clay seals, much as the Chinese still do today, to officialise documents and letters. Some of the seals found contain figures of animals that are unknown to us today, including an extinct form of the Brahman bull.
Archaeologists really have no idea who the builders were, but their attempts to date the ruins (which they ascribe to the “Indus Valley civilisation”, also called “Harappan”) have come up with something like 2500 BC and older, but radiation from the wars apparently fought in the area may have thrown off the date.
The Rama Empire, described in the Mahabharata and Ramayana, was supposedly contemporaneous with the great cultures of Atlantis and Osiris in the West.
Atlantis, well known from Plato’s writings and ancient Egyptian records, apparently existed in the mid-Atlantic and was a highly technological and patriarchal civilisation.
The Osirian civilisation existed in the Mediterranean basin and northern Africa, according to esoteric doctrine and archaeological evidence, and is generally known as pre-dynastic Egypt. It was flooded when Atlantis sank and the Mediterranean began to fill up with water.
The Rama Empire flourished during the same period, according to esoteric tradition, fading out in the millennium after the destruction of the Atlantean continent.
As noted above, the ancient Indian epics describe a series of horrific wars–wars which could have been fought between ancient India and Atlantis, or perhaps a third party in the Gobi region of western China. The Mahabharata and the Drona Parva speak of the war and of the weapons used: great fireballs that could destroy a whole city; “Kapila’s Glance”, which could burn 50,000 men to ashes in seconds; and flying spears that could ruin whole “cities full of forts”.
The Rama Empire was started by the Nagas (Naacals) who had come into India from Burma and ultimately from “the Motherland to the east”–or so Colonel James Churchward was told. After settling in the Deccan Plateau in northern India, they made their capital in the ancient city of Deccan, where the modern city of Nagpur stands today.
The empire of the Nagas apparently began to extend all over northern India to include the cities of Harappa, Mohenjo-Daro and Kot Diji (now in Pakistan), as well as Lothal, Kalibanga, Mathura and possibly other cities such as Benares, Ayodha and Pataliputra.
These cities were led by “Great Teachers” or “Masters” who were the benevolent aristocracy of the Rama civilisation. Today they are generally called “Priest-Kings” of the Indus Valley civilisation, and a number of statues of these so-called gods have been discovered. In reality, these were apparently men whose mental and psychic powers were of a degree that seems incredible to most people of today. It was at the height of power for both the Rama Empire and Atlantis that the war allegedly broke out, seemingly because of Atlantis’s attempt to subjugate Rama.
According to the Lemurian Fellowship lesson materials, the populace surrounding Mu (Lemuria, which predated the other civilisations) eventually split into two opposing factions: those who prized practicality and those who prized spirituality. The citizenry, or educated elite, of Mu itself was balanced equally in these two qualities. The citizenry encouraged the other groups to emigrate to uninhabited lands. Those who prized practicality emigrated to the Poseid Island group (Atlantis), and those who prized spirituality eventually ended up in India. The Atlanteans, a patriarchal civilisation with an extremely materialistic, technologically oriented culture, deemed themselves “Masters of the World” and eventually sent a well-equipped army to India in order to subjugate the Rama Empire and bring it under the suzerainty of Atlantis.
One account of the battle, related by the Lemurian Fellowship, tells how the Rama Empire Priest-Kings defeated the Atlanteans. Equipped with a formidable force and a “fantastic array of weapons”, the Atlanteans landed in their vailixi outside one of the Rama cities, got their troops in order and sent a message to the ruling Priest-King of the city that he should surrender. The Priest-King sent word back to the Atlantean General:
We of India have no quarrel with you of Atlantis. We ask only that we be permitted to follow our own way of life.
Regarding the ruler’s mild request as a confession of weakness and expecting an easy victory–as the Rama Empire did not possess the technology of war or the aggressiveness of the Atlanteans–the Atlantean General sent another message:
We shall not destroy your land with the mighty weapons at our command, provided you pay sufficient tribute and accept the rulership of Atlantis.
The Priest-King of the city responded humbly again, seeking to avert war:
We of India do not believe in war and strife, peace being our ideal. Neither would we destroy you or your soldiers who but follow orders. However, if you persist in your determination to attack us without cause and merely for the purpose of conquest, you will leave us no recourse but to destroy you and all of your leaders. Depart, and leave us in peace.
Arrogantly, the Atlanteans did not believe that the Indians had the power to stop them, certainly not by technical means. At dawn, the Atlantean army began to march on the city. From a high viewpoint, the Priest-King sadly watched the army advance. Then he raised his arms heavenward, and using a particular mental technique he caused the General and then each officer in order of rank to drop dead in his tracks, perhaps of some sort of heart failure. In a panic, and without leaders, the remaining Atlantean force fled to the waiting vailixi and retreated in terror to Atlantis. Of the sieged Rama city, not one man was lost.
While this may be nothing but fanciful conjecture, the Indian epics go on to tell the rest of the horrible story, and things do not turn out well for Rama. Assuming the above story is true, Atlantis was not pleased at the humiliating defeat and therefore used its most powerful and destructive weapon–quite possibly an atomic-type weapon!
Consider these verses from the ancient Mahabharata:
…(it was) a single projectile
Charged with all the power of the Universe.
An incandescent column of smoke and flame
As bright as the thousand suns
Rose in all its splendour…
..it was an unknown weapon,
An iron thunderbolt,
A gigantic messenger of death,
Which reduced to ashes
The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.
..The corpses were so burned
As to be unrecognisable.
The hair and nails fell out;
Pottery broke without apparent cause,
And the birds turned white.
After a few hours
All foodstuffs were infected…
…to escape from this fire
The soldiers threw themselves in streams
To wash themselves and their equipment.
Sure as hell sounds like an atomic war to me! It could also explain the fused glass plains in Pakistan, India and Egypt!
Cremo and Thompson have their detracters of course and they readily expected that, given that the “suppression of evidence” and “knowledge filter” would be in place.
I don’t know if Oppenheimer was a follower of Krishna Consiousness or not, there doesn’t seem to be any accounts of him being a follower, other than what he supposedly said at the Trinity site. But one must not come away from this feeling that I’m pushing one ideology over another, or that Oppenheimer was a closet Hindu. I’m suggesting that we all look at human history with an unjaundiced eye and accept facts as they are found. If they go against the grain some, we must find a way to reach a new paradigm.
Our future may depend on it!