Talking to Gliese, Ancient Temples and Aldrin speaks out

Bebo and the TV company behind Wife Swap have teamed up with one of the world’s experts in interstellar radio communication, Dr Alexander Zaitsev, to beam 500 messages from users into space in a digital time capsule.

Dr Zaitsev will use a Ukrainian radio telescope, normally used to identify and track asteroids that pose a threat to Earth, to beam the messages to a planet orbiting the star Gliese 581c – 20 light years from Earth – because it is believed to be capable of supporting life.

The Gliese star system also figures prominently in Dan Burisch’s universe. The ‘alien’, or human descendant from the future he was in contact and worked with was from there.

Take it for what it’s worth.

Networking site Bebo beams message to Earth-like planet

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Malta’s Hypogeum is a World Heritage site. It is indeed a unique site, if only because through its strict visitor policy – allowing only ten people per hour into the temple –visitors normally need to book at least a month in advance. But site-wise, why it was built and especially what the difference in function was between its various underground rooms, has long remained a mystery. Finding answers wasn’t helped when the reports of the early excavation work were lost.

In some corners, the debate about the purpose and age of the structure is still ongoing, though archaeologists themselves seem to have decided to just let it rest. That, of course, is an inherent problem of unique sites: no comparison with similar structures can occur and hence interpretation is difficult. But in recent years, the Hypogeum is no longer so unique, and new light can be thrown into this ancient enigmatic underground complex.
In short, the Hypogeum of Hal Saflieni, a suburb of Paola, near Malta’s capital Valletta, was built in several stages, from 3600 to 2500 BC, meaning it was largely completed before the first stone of the Great Pyramid was still to be laid.

It never ceases to amaze me that these ancient cultures of the world during this era (Neolithic-post Neolithic) were so incredibly adept at working and creating huge stone structures. And the knowledge these people had of Nature and beyond!

This still doesn’t prove that there was a ‘mother’ Ice Age culture that left daughter civilizations in Peru, Malta, Egypt and Japan, but it sure adds to the growing circumstantial evidence of the same.

From the otherworld to another world?

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Just four years after President Bush announced his vision to send astronauts back to the moon and then on to Mars, legendary astronaut Buzz Aldrin is leading an effort to re-examine the whole idea _ in particular, NASA’s choice of rockets for the mission.

It is the latest sign that NASA’s Constellation program _ intended to replace the space shuttle after 2010 _ is in trouble.

Concerned by reports that the Ares rockets and Orion crew capsule are beset by cost overruns, schedule delays and complex technical woes, Aldrin says he wants to create a panel of experts to make sure that Constellation is the right way to go.

“We need to stick with the mission but rethink some of the ways we implement it,” said Aldrin, the second man to walk on the moon. “It doesn’t pay to stick with a bad idea.”

Aldrin has won some backers, including a prominent Washington think tank and the backers of an alternate rocket design created by moonlighting NASA employees.

But the space agency _ and its allies on Capitol Hill _ insists there’s no need for more study.

Of course NASA says there’s no need for further study, palms have already been crossed with silver, i.e., politicians and government contractors have already been bought.

But Aldrin lends credibility to the argument that NASA went ahead nilly-willy with a bad design and politicians from states that have contractors to build this crap with cost over-run in mind so people can stay employed, which turns into votes.

Griffin and his co-criminals need the old tar, feathers, rail and rope treatment!

Buzz Aldrin calls for reevaluation of NASA moon project

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4 responses

  1. Hi dad2059 et al. …

    What intrigues me the most is with the age of the expanding universe to be 13+ billion years old is that we haven’t intercepted “any” signals with the possibility of intelligent origin from afar.

    Recently it was determined that long wave radio signals; ie., broadcast etc. would be extremely diminished within 2 light years or less from earth. If this is so , then it would explain the vitual “blackout” concerning our earthbased surveillance receivers from intercepting any signal from beyond this limit. The nearest star system is about 4.2 light years distant.

    As old as the universe is to this point in our earth based history, then you’d think the “electronic universe” would be teeming with signals of a non-random, anomalous origin. It doesn’t mean we could decode them, but they’d stand out from the simple background noise of interstellar space.

    So either we are alone or space is teeming with signals that are so attenuated that we simply cannot receive them regardless of how close they might be, at least under two light years in distance.

    Carl Nemo **==

  2. There is background noise, it’s microwave radiation left over from the Big Bang.

    I think that radio exists for a very short time in a technical cultures lifetime. If humanity survives the next century and establishes colonies in the Solar System, radio might cease being the communication medium altogether. Laser and other tight-beam communication methods can be modulated to carry far more information packets than radio, with less degradation.

    That’s probably why we don’t hear radio messages from afar criss-crossing the galaxy, advanced cultures use far better methods to talk to each other. Radio would be like sending up smoke signals, or a ‘marathon’ messenger.

  3. Hi dad2059…

    Thanks for the feedback and you are spot-on concerning the fact that advanced civilizations would be using communications techniques that made our TV, radio and satellite based programming seem like smoke signals. Even our UHF commo links used for the space program are primitive.

    In fact right now the NIST (The National Institute of Standards) is working on the final protocols for quantum communications which will be the ultimate method for safe, hard encrypted communication between parties that cannot be hacked or cracked. I’ll supply a link so people can read about this cutting edge communications technique. It does work and has been tested by scientific teams at Los Alamos; ie., digital quantum communcations, digitally modulating one photon at a time.

    http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/quantum/quantum_communications.html

    So if in time, when the mysteries of dark matter, dark energy and the very matrix of space that’s now invisible to us is kenned, then signals of any kind between highly advance civilizations wouldn’t even be moving through normal space, but some type type of “subspace” as referenced in Star Trek episodes.

    Still, there would many civilizations at the “smoke signal” stage such as us and we are not detecting any such transmissions which to me seems to support the idea that signals of this nature are simply attenuated tremendously as they spread out into space from their source making them undetectable.

    Carl Nemo **==

  4. Still, there would many civilizations at the “smoke signal” stage such as us and we are not detecting any such transmissions which to me seems to support the idea that signals of this nature are simply attenuated tremendously as they spread out into space from their source making them undetectable.

    That’s the Fermi Paradox in a nutshell, “Where are they?”

    In all my InnerTube studies of various science and of course, UFO sites, nobody knows anymore than anyone else. In fact, they seem to thwart each others efforts with dogma!

    Dr. Zaitsev comments on the Centauri Dreams site sometimes when Paul Gilster posts about SETI and radio telescope communications. Dr. Zaitsev of course practices direct radio broadcasts of messages at target stars that might house a civilization like ours, or most likely, one probably far more developed. A great many commenters question Zaitsev’s judgement in this matter, asking whether he has the authority to speak for all of humanity in contacting an ETI. His response was that all of our various radar and other radio communications would be detectable by an advanced ETI anyway.

    I agree with you Carl at this point because I don’t think our radar studies of the Solar System would be detectable at interstellar distances because of the dissipation of the signal. But directed, high energy signals from radio telescopes like Arecibo would very much be detected, but I don’t know the range.

    Zaitsev’s broadcasts would be limited because of the power required, but I think 20 light-years is very doable.

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