The RAND of UFO and/or Nazi Space Tech

In recent posts I have either written or ‘cut and pasted’ about the Pentagon’s technology arm, DARPA, enabling it to receive a lot of attention and deservedly so.

The ‘black tech’ they are engaged in has the ability to affect not only the people in this nation (US), but other nations across the planet because of the Pentagon’s reach.

But there is a think tank that is DARPA’s ‘grand-daddy’ and has the same reach and has had as much, if not more influence on the Pentagon’s reach around the world.

The RAND Corporation’s (Research And Development) history dates back to the end of WWII (1946) and was a project of the Army Air Force. From its very inception, the RAND corporation has been involved in the blackest of the black tech, mainly in the technology of space flight.

According to author and researcher Anthony Bragalia ( records are scanty on this guy ), RAND from the beginning was involved in the ‘back engineering’ of UFO technology to be adapted to the US Army Air Force’s nacent space program:

From its very inception, the men of RAND knew much about saucers.

RAND was conceived by Donald Douglas, CEO of Douglas Aircraft (and a protege of Dr. Jerome Hunsaker at MIT) along with two military officer luminaries. These officers carried with them significant “UFO histories.” The officers behind RAND were Major General Curtis LeMay (the US Air Force’s Chief of Development) and General Hap Arnold (considered the “father” of the modern U.S. Air Force.)

In May of 1948 RAND was separated from Douglas Aircraft and became its own operating entity. Among RAND’s earliest government reports was the release of the enigmatically titled, “Preliminary Design of an Experimental World-Circling Spaceship.”


General Curtis LeMay

LeMay expressed deep interest and concern about the flying saucer phenomena. More than this, LeMay himself was a keeper of the purported 1947 Roswell UFO crash debris.

This was revealed in a stunningly candid interview with the late U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater. Goldwater (a former U.S. Presidential Candidate, Major General and Command Pilot) was General LeMay’s professional associate and close friend. LeMay’s UFO involvement was related by Goldwater in a live worldwide broadcast with CNN’s Larry King in 1994. The USAF had just issued its report that debunked the Roswell crash of 1947 as a Mogul balloon. Goldwater (who died just a few years later) informed King that he knew the truth to be far different.

The Roswell Mystery again rears it’s ugly head and it is the ‘Thing that will not Die’, even after all these years.

I’m not going to try to explain Roswell. Many, many more people experienced than I have researched this to death and there’s still no satisfactory answer and I suspect there never will be.

That doesn’t mean that the RAND corporation wasn’t researching advanced space tech in secret, oh no.

It is no secret the military and the various ‘alphabet soup’ spy agencies have used the UFO phenomenon over the past 65 years to cover up black-tech projects. Area 51 is the chief example in this. I’m proposing that RAND was researching a source more down to Earth.

So to speak.

The Nazi government was into more, let’s say, ‘non-conventional’ military research in 1944 to 1945 as they grew more desperate to beat back Allied advances toward their country.

One of those ideas was to produce a ‘world encircling’ space ship that would be able to bomb enemy territories hours after launch:

In its operation, the Antipodal Bomber was a hybrid of aircraft and orbital spacecraft. It was to take off from a special rocket sled running on a monorail. When it reached 1640 ft/sec, it would lift off and climb to operational altitude in a steep, near-ballistic trajectory. But the Silver Bird would shut down its engines before attaining orbital velocity. It would sink back to earth until it bounced off the upper edge of the atmosphere. The bomber would proceed to the target like a stone skipping over the surface of a pond. After dropping its weapons, it would continue on around the globe to its base.

As near as we know, the Sänger aerospace plane got no closer to the hardware stage than the afore- mentioned wind-tunnel models. Germany’s other notable manned space venture, on the other hand, was a member of the V2 rocket family. Many of its elements were actually tested using sub-scale, V2 components. The A9/A10 project was a two-stage, hypersonic, semi-ballistic manned bomber with a planned 3000-mile range. Taking the aerodynamics of the experimental, winged A4b version of the V2 for their starting point, the engineers at Germany’s Peenemünde rocket center added a pressurized cockpit, landing gear, flaps, ailerons, elevators, and a turbojet sustainer engine. They planned to mount this A9 on a huge A10 booster, in essence a V2 grown to monstrous proportions. 



The A9/A10 composite would take off vertically. After staging, the A9 component would follow a ballistic trajectory to the edge of space, 210 miles up. It would then fall back to earth until, 750 miles from its base, at an altitude of about 30 miles, and at speeds of over 8000 mph, the wingborne portion of the flight began. The A9 would approach its target in a high-Mach, unpowered glide. Forty-five minutes into the mission, it would release its modest one-ton bomb load, start the turbojet, and turn for home.

The most ambitious and, perhaps, delusional of the Nazi space schemes was a 1945 project for an orbital space station armed with a death ray, a huge space mirror. In 1929, Herman Oberth had proposed a potentially practical space station that served as the basis for the later project. But the 1945 station was to be one giant mirror fabricated entirely from metallic sodium. Over-sized V2 rockets were to carry the thing to its 1500-mile orbit in prefabricated sections. Here, Nazi spacemen would assemble it , using electricity provided by a system of solar-fired boilers and steam-driven dynamos. Breathable oxygen would come from pumpkins grown under flourescent light. When they were finished, the crew would steer the station over target nations, focus the sun’s rays, and burn cities and boil reservoirs.

The space station is patently ridiculous, even today. It is hard to say how practical either of the rocket plane schemes could have been either, given the state of the art in the 1940s and the ever-worsening shortages of rare metals and petrochemicals. The German engineers appear to have grossly underestimated the thermal loads on a winged re-entry vehicle. These would not be on the order of an Apollo capsule, but they would still pose a formidable problem. Stainless steel might not be up to the job and was hard to fabricate. Titanium was still in the future. Inconel and the nimonic alloys that made the X-15 possible were still a few years away. Even now, the only working aerospace plane, the Space Shuttle, has to have ceramic tiles over all highly heated surfaces. Propulsion would also be a problem. As the new masters of German science, the US and USSR, discovered in the 1950s, V2-type engines could not simply be scaled up in the manner planned for the A10. Sänger-style, single-stage-to-orbit systems are still no more than a dream after sixty years.

Even if the A9/A10 or the Antipodal Bomber had been built and made to work, one wonders what it would all be for. A paltry ton of high explosive could hardly have a measurable effect on the war. It could never justify either program’s staggering cost in money, raw materials, and industrial capacity. Some writers have suggested that one or both was an intended delivery vehicle for a Nazi nuclear weapon. But the Nazis had no hope of fielding an A-bomb by 1944 or 1945. In any case, it would be decades before nuclear weapons could be had in 2000-4000 lb packages (the Hiroshima and Nagasaki weapons weighed in at around 10,000 lbs each). The Nazi space program is thus best understood as little more than a self-indulgent delusion, one of many that occupied Germany’s bunker-bound leadership and self-serving intelligentsia as disaster and defeat overtook the nation they professed to lead.

Could this be what RAND’s “Preliminary Design of an Experimental World-Circling Spaceship” report is actually about?

And the military just happened to fortuitously use the Roswell Incident as cover? Or actually create the incident?

We’ll probably never know the truth. Everything is a puzzle within a puzzle wrapped in an enigma.

And in that, the MICC spin meisters have accomplished their mission.

All we can do is throw opinions out there and perhaps hook a big fish.

Or an old tire.


Weird Science: German Military Spacecraft of World War 2

Hat tip


7 responses

  1. Keep up the excellent blogging. Very interesting indeed!

  2. Hi dad, I have something:

    There are a lof of sceptics out there, but is simething 😉

    1. The comment forum seems to be full of skeptics on Prichett’s design Lubo.

      I’m not a ‘rocket scientist’ so I can’t comment on whether the guy’s design would work or not, but I think there’s a reason why the saucer design doesn’t work for chemical rocket propulsion.

      But electromagnetic propulsion…there you might have a chance Lubo my friend..!

  3. Andrew Bennett | Reply

    Given time,The Nazis could have created the death ray.The bible states that nothing is impossible for man to do.If they set their mind to do what they wish.

    1. Biblical prophecies are easy to proclaim in my view because we’ve been proclaiming Dispensionationist Prophecy since the 1830s and earlier!

      But you are correct in stating that people can do many things if they set their minds to them!

  4. Some, who study ancient knowledge believe that man can do nothing, although one man can have much power by being the medium for a higher power…G:

    1. There have been many over the millennia Geez who have proclaimed great power through their mediumship and they came to nothing also.

      I think it is one who honestly communicates with others in various dimensions whom possibly gains wisdom if there’s any to be had.

      When one comes back to the third dimension, most of the knowledge gained is lost simply because the third dimension is limited in scope and unable to retain it.

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