Daily Archives: September 30th, 2009

Of BYOEs and The Trickster

My blog pal Rick Phillips of The Heavy Stuff has an unique take on the UFO phenomenon and it nearly matches my own theories.

BYOEs or ‘Billion Year Old Entities”

Recently, I’ve been having some fun commenting with Greg Bishop of Ufo Mystic and others – on my Ufo Disclosure Countdown Clock blog (I’ll put that link at the bottom) UDCC about `Billion’ – with a B – Billion year old entities. And, despite that post – I want to further expand upon the concept – and perhaps, tie it back into anomalous events humans experience.

Now, in my UDCC post and comments I stated that most probably any entity that we would encounter that was a Billion years old – would most likely be a `machine-hybrid’ that was most likely at one time `put into motion’ by a biological entity like a human or comparable creature on another planet hospitable to life. Which is really nothing more than classic science fiction that a species creates an `eternal representation’ of themselves that wanders the Universe with a set of purposes by the `beings’ who create such a machine to represent themselves in Long Time. Long time being that view of time that would try to outlast the very structure of time-space itself.

And, I will get to some specifics I’ve considered along these lines soon.

Meanwhile, I got to doing a little internet digging on this subject (finding that I was indeed number one on page one of google for `billion year old entities’) – looking for what type of life has been around on Earth for the longest time — 1 Billion Years — Green Algae

Although the division between a colony with specialized cells and a multicellular organism is not always clear, around 1 billion years ago[48]the first multicellular plants emerged, probably green algae.[49]

From –  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Earth

And, from this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_life comes this

  • Various claims have been made about reviving bacterial spores to active metabolism after millions of years. There are claims of spores from amber being revived after 40 million years, and spores from salt deposits in New Mexico being revived after 240 million years. These claims have been made by credible researchers, but are not universally accepted.[1]
  • A Great Basin Bristlecone Pine (Pinus longaeva) called Prometheus was measured by ring count at 4,862 years old when it was felled in 1964. This is the greatest verified age for any living organism at the time of its killing.[3]
  • The Hydrozoan species Turritopsis nutricula is capable of cycling from a mature adult stage to an immature polyp stage and back again. This means that there may be no natural limit to its life span.[21] However, no single specimen has been observed for any extended period, and it is impossible to estimate the age of a specimen.
  • The Antarctic sponge Cinachyra antarctica has an extremely slow growth rate in the low temperatures of the Antarctic Ocean. One specimen has been estimated to be 1,550 years old[22].
    As with all long-lived plant and fungal species, no individual part of a clonal colony is alive(in the sense of active metabolism) for more than a very small fraction of the life of the entire clone. Some clonal colonies may be fully connected via their root systems, while most are not actually interconnected, but are genetically identical clones which populated an area through vegetative reproduction. Ages for clonal colonies, often based on current growth rates, are estimates.[3]

    Whew, ………………… so let it be said, that when talking about Billion Year Old Entities – what I am going to be talking about is a `Space’ – an – `Object’ – that has literally been `in existence’ for one Billion years. Unlike anything on Earth has ever existed. So, perhaps almost obviously – our definition of `living’ – being ascribed to such an object is tentative – but – EXISTING – absolutely.  Existing with a purpose – absolutely. With intentionalities. With actualization.


    Such beings would be above us as we are above slime-mold. And they would have no trouble popping in and out of the Universe at will.

    My variance on this theory is that these entities might very well be our own descendents, if we accept the idea that time is holistic, not linear. And that the idea of a Technological Singularity is possible, thus the result of it could bring about the uber-evolution of entities that can exist in the past, present and future simultaneously.

    It could explain the lack of SETI results too.

    Billion Year Old Entities

    Here’s more commentary about the “trickster” element of the UFO phenomenon and the possible nature of the “entities” involved.

    I listened to just a few minutes of last night’s program, and found last night’s guest Christopher O’Brien extremely interesting. (Who mentioned Tonnies by the way, in terms of researchers, thinkers and writers considering the alien-ETH vs. Trickster/Something else idea.) O’Brien has a new book: “Stalking the Trickster”, which of course I will have to read. (I wonder why O’Brien didn’t mention George Hansen and his work, The Trickster and the Paranormal? Maybe he did and I didn’t catch it.) O’Brien, who has been investigating UFO, cattle mutes and other UAD’s, high strangeness in general, etc. in Colorado, is the author of several articles on these events as well as three books about the strange happenings in Colorado’s San Luis Valley. O’Brien, who has had his own UFO experiences, has come to a place where he thinks much more is going on than a simplistic ET explanation. yet. Isn’t is possible it’s both? Maybe I want to cling to this idea because I find both possibilities equally intriguing: space beings from Mars, and ultra/inter dimensional, terrestrial other . . .

    Round and round we go it seems, for no one can dismiss the Trickster behavior in so much of UFO and other weird areas (Fortean, paranormal, etc.) and yet… and

    Or, it could be some of the aliens are capable of manifesting such behaviors so ancient and convoluted they appear to be beyond what’s now become a jaded explanation for some: the ET. I think some consider ET to be advanced technologically, but don’t go beyond that. Aliens, some of them anyway, could very well be exceedingly capable of performing all kinds of feats that appear almost magical to us, and so, we call them angels, or demons, or Tricksters, or inter-dimensional whatevers. And maybe some of the ETs are all of those things, and it’s all in the naming. Angels and demons are ET, or the aliens are angels and demons? Same thing, different names, different human created constructs made to control and indoctrinate. Meanwhile, the ETs/angels/demons are doing their thing, and they don’t care what we call them.

    Ancient time warping groovy effects inter-dimensional, or aliens from space? Why couldn’t the space-man from Mars be perfectly capable of performing tricks for our entertainment? Why force the space being into a box; aliens are supposed to act this way, and if they don’t, they’re something else. Why do we think we can figure them out, predict their behaviors, assume their motivations, presume their cultures and their abilities?

    It’s possible some ETs mimic other non-human behaviors: ghosts, or who knows what. Fairies, angels, gods. . . an alien very well might want to confuse us, or maybe, it’s just playing around. They could know how to manipulate things that stress our credibility: we can accept there are aliens on Mars (or wherever) and can travel in UFOs, but they can’t visit us on the astral plane. When that happens, we shift from alien to something else; angel, god, ultra terrestrial, etc. Maybe it’s as simple as it seems: aliens can manipulate a lot more than we think.

    Often when we talk about ET we present it as if there is just one kind of ET. “ET” we say, as if it’s a single entity. It seems pretty obvious there are many kinds of ET (Dr. Greer’s didactic list of specific numbers excluded) and some of these aliens are advanced not just technologically, but in so many other ways as well.

    Again, these beings might or might not be material at all, thus prompting the question whether their very nature isn’t material at all, they only take the material from our environment when they manifest themselves.

    Mac Tonnies on Coast to Coast and the Trickster