Proof of Kardashev-Type 3 Civilization?

Possible proof of another ‘intelligent’ civilization in the Universe?

A refutation of the Fermi Paradox?


There is something strange in the cosmic neighbourhood. An unknown object in the nearby galaxy M82 has started sending out radio waves, and the emission does not look like anything seen anywhere in the universe before.”We don’t know what it is,” says co-discoverer Tom Muxlow of Jodrell Bank Centre for Astrophysics near Macclesfield, UK.

The thing appeared in May last year, while Muxlow and his colleagues were monitoring an unrelated stellar explosion in M82 using the MERLIN network of radio telescopes in the UK. A bright spot of radio emission emerged over only a few days, quite rapidly in astronomical terms. Since then it has done very little except baffle astrophysicists.

It certainly does not fit the pattern of radio emissions from supernovae: they usually get brighter over a few weeks and then fade away over months, with the spectrum of the radiation changing all the while. The new source has hardly changed in brightness over the course of a year, and its spectrum is steady.

Warp speed

Yet it does seem to be moving – and fast: its apparent sideways velocity is four times the speed of light. Such apparent “superluminal” motion has been seen before in high-speed jets of material squirted out by some black holes. The stuff in these jets is moving towards us at a slight angle and travelling at a fair fraction of the speed of light, and the effects of relativity produce a kind of optical illusion that makes the motion appear superluminal.

Could the object be a black hole? It is not quite in the middle of M82, where astronomers would expect to find the kind of supermassive central black hole that most other galaxies have. Which leaves the possibility that it could be a smaller-scale “microquasar“.

A microquasar is formed after a very massive star explodes, leaving behind a black hole around 10 to 20 times the mass of the sun, which then starts feeding on gas from a surviving companion star. Microquasars do emit radio waves – but none seen in our galaxy is as bright as the new source in M82. Microquasars also produce plenty of X-rays, whereas no X-rays have been seen from the mystery object. “So that’s not right either”, Muxlow told New Scientist.

His best guess is still that the radio source is some kind of dense object accreting surrounding material, perhaps a large black hole or a black hole in an unusual environment. Perhaps the phenomenon also happens occasionally in our galaxy, but is more common in M82 because it is a “starburst” galaxy – a cosmic cauldron where massive stars are forming and exploding at a much higher rate than in the Milky Way, creating a lot of new black holes.

There have been much talk of interstellar ‘beacons’ lately that would prove the existence of mighty interstellar cultures, like our versions of the Great Pyramids, the Cathedrals of Paris and the Towers/Replica of Earth in Dubai, i.e., displays of excess power over Nature.

Read the Benford Brothers paper on interstellar beacons;

Mysterious Radio Waves Emitted From Nearby Galaxy


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16 responses

  1. I’ve read a couple of articles on this, but not ones that mentioned the transluminal spread of the object. 4 times the speed of light? Jesus H Christ.

    1. Actually that is an illusion. They mention the signals ‘appear’ that way because of time dilation, the signals can go no faster than light.

  2. That’s what made it seem so amazing — the speed cap. Intriguing information though. I wonder what it could be!

    1. Word has it that it’s a ‘micro-quasar’ ;

      James and Greg Benford (yes, the Benford sci-fi writer) have been writing papers on how an advanced, powerful civilization could construct beacon(s) that could cross interstellar/galactic space.

      I hope these idiot scientists are checking for modulation in this ‘micro-quasar!’

  3. Hi guys, how’s the antigravity research doing? :P:D

  4. …how’s the antigravity research doing?

    Hey Lubo, long time no see! 🙂

    How’s the leg? Are you better?

    And no, no anti-gravity yet, unless Elon Musk invents it! 😦

  5. Hi, dad! I’m fine for now, thanks. Little break time in my healing process. 🙂
    Right now I’m a student, 1st year in the local technical university. 😎 Not much free time. Electrical engineering 😉 The saucers are electric vehicles! 😛
    To the subject of antigravity – why should we wait Mr. Musk? Either we remind him somehow, or we should hope that Dr. James Woodward will come up with something very, very soon. Nobody else is working towards it. Sadly, but true.
    P.S. Centauri dreams is a big lie. Don’t trust it, dad.

  6. bruceleeeowe | Reply

    Hi lubo, why not try to come with your own theory?

  7. hi guys. would a type 3 civ be irrisponsible enough to generate such an easily detectable signal?

    1. Maybe. But if it’s a beacon that probably means they’re extinct. Or ascended into machine intelligence and moved away.

    2. Hi Aaron,

      If there were a such things as a Type 3 Civilization, why would having a detectable signal be irresponsible? Sure, we think it might be dangerous because it could expose our location to potentially hostile extraterrestrials. But we’re just a Type 0. What we think is probably pretty irrelevant to the thoughts and actions of a Type 3 civilization.

      And as Dad said, it could be a beacon. One of thousands if not millions, which, if that were the case, wouldn’t necessarily put their locations(s) in danger of being exposed. (and if in their infancy, they sent out a probe, such as we did with Voyager 1 & 2), the danger of being discovered would exist well before they got their Type 3 gold club card.

      Perhaps when one has the knowledge, technology, and ability to harness the power of a galaxy, things like keeping a low profile aren’t important anymore.

      Of course, it’s all speculation from our front. Accurately guessing the motives and reasoning of a totally alien civilization, and one that’s got a few million years head-start on us, is likely futile.

      1. I was watching an old UFOTV vid last night (2008) and the interviewee said there was a paradigm in science that claims all causes must be natural and this goes all the way back to Darwin. The trouble is, this eliminates a lot of choices science has in explaining anomalies.

        So anything we see in the Universe that could be intelligently caused (possible beacon) is instantly thrown into the “natural causes” rubbish bin.

        Science needs a new paradigm.

      2. Hello Dad and Lady Bunny

        Your thoughts have shown me the lack of depth of my own.
        Thank you, you have given me much to think about.
        Keep up the good work.
        Fare well.

      3. Hey Aaron, take care!


  8. Ha! I think I’m watching that very show right now — entirely on accident.

    God, Hoagland has some hair.

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