History H2 Channel: ‘Hangar 1: The UFO Files’ inspires MUFON UFO report
History’s H2 channel release of “Hangar 1: The UFO Files” February 28, 2014, inspired at least one viewer to file a UFO report with the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON), according to testimony in Case 54384 from the MUFON witness reporting database.
The witness had a UFO encounter about 10 a.m. on July 10, 2012, but had kept details of the incident to himself until a few scenes in the “Hangar 1” show depicted objects that resembled his original sighting. The “Hangar 1” episodes are based on MUFON case files and the first episode was televised just last evening.
A Little Tuesday ‘Tin-foil’
David Naveed of Naveed’s Realm is a little “de-focused” these days:
[…]Last year I’m blogging about UFOs and other bizarre subjects on here and now I seem to slowly be going towards a more philosophical/theological subjects. Don’t get me wrong I’ve still been blogging about UFOs and what not and probably still will. Actually looking back over the last year and a half or so I think the UFO thing is what got me heading where I’m going with my posts. I blame that Zecharia Sitchin guy and his blasted writings. Opening my mind up to how interconnected religions and myths from the mid east seem to be.
Adding to the madness my beliefs on the UFO/alien subject has gone towards a more ultra-dimensional angle as many events seem to fit better within that frame of reference. That of course got me pondering more heavily on how many beings from myths and religion are perhaps ultra-dimensional beings (divine or not) trying to influence our world for good or bad.
Of course now that I’ve added to the whole mess with pondering all the multidimensional stuff and the religions and what not, I find myself wondering about the true nature of reality. Then one thing leads to another and I’m reading religious texts (primarily the Bible, but recently the Tao Teh Ching as well, and I’m also looking to snag a copy of the Quran) and anything I can find on the web or books pertaining to interdimensional and quantum physical stuff (especially if it involves UFOs or the paranormal) .
Sadly I really have no clue where I’m going with this post or any of my potentially religious beliefs either. I’ve come to the conclusion however that somehow UFOs, multidimensionality, religion, the myths of old, and God are all somehow interconnected. I’ve also concluded that I exist in my own little world, but that is up for argument…unless of course you believe that reality is just a reflection of consciousness…in which case whose consciousness? Oh and if it turns out to be somehow a mass conscious reflection then most of you out there are sick, sick individuals and Cthulhu needs to eat your souls…however if it’s just my consciousness…well the same thing goes…
David better be careful, studying Fortean subjects tends to take you from this Universe.
If one could, just ask Rik Clay, Ken Daniel Bentkowski, Mac Tonnies…
Should journalists teach people about the strange and anomalous?
Just ask George Knapp, award winning journalist who wrote about the Bob Lazar Case 20 years ago:
How should journalists, the news media and informed citizens handle certain unusual and unconventional topics?
To try to find the answers, internationally-known and award-winning investigative journalist George Knapp will be teaching a journalism course at the College of Southern Nevada beginning in January.
The course, “Reporting from the Twilight Zone, “will explore many elements involved in subjects that may be sensitive or secret, complex, strange, and at times, frightening.
Journalism students and professionals as well as the general public are welcome to take the course.
Knapp plans to include examinations of the roles of reporters, editors, news organizations, other media professionals as well as media consumers when it comes to topics such as alleged conspiracies, cover-ups and other unusual areas such as UFOs.
Is there peer pressure in the newsroom? Do elements of government shape coverage of certain topics, conspiracies and cover-ups? Do media owners and advertisers affect reporting on sensitive, unconventional or special topics? Are these kinds of subjects also exploited at times by and in the media? What are the current trends on this kind of journalism?
The class will tackle these and other important questions.
MODERN INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM
According to the course description, Knapp, students and guests “will examine the techniques and standards of modern investigative journalism as applied to ‘fringe’ topics and will identify key approaches taken by various media to the exploration and/or exploitation of controversial subjects.”
The course description also notes, “Another objective will be to question whether journalism standards for covering ‘fringe’ subjects are (or should be) different from other types of reporting. The course will explore these issues from many different perspectives, and will receive input from professional journalists, academic researchers, scientists, and skeptics.”
“The course will encourage critical thinking skills for both journalists and news consumers in evaluating the quality and accuracy of the news and information we see, and don’t see.”
We might also ask: How do journalists cover topics on which there may be a lack of solid facts, yet persuasive sources, indicators or circumstantial evidence? How do citizens draw reasonable conclusions and understanding from a wide range of journalistic reports and other sources and media platforms?
In a Dec. 3 column he wrote for “Las Vegas City Life,” Knapp also noted that the course is being sponsored by Bigelow Aerospace, based in Las Vegas. Knapp pointed out that the company’s founder, Robert “Bob” Bigelow, has “a lifelong interest” in subjects related to unconventional topics such as UFOs. In addition, Bigelow will provide funding for guest speakers and lecturers to contribute to the course, Knapp wrote.
Are these kinds of topics worthy of news coverage or even a college class? Knapp raises this issue in his “Las Vegas City Life” column. Some people may not think so. Knapp says students, media professionals and the public should make up their own minds and maintain a critical and careful perspective.
Knapp never paid a huge price for writing about Bob Lazar, but he knew that he blew any chance of working for any of the mainstream networks like NBC, CBS and ABC, so he never tried to leave the local Nevada area.
Bigelow’s involvement with UFOs might be unusual, but he does have a business interest in it.
He hopes to discover how the UFO’s drive system operates so his company can build spacecraft utilizing it, if there’s one to be had.
Friedman UFO Lecture
It’s been a while since I posted about Stanton T. Friedman, the most vocal proponent of the “nuts and bolts” theory of UFOs, i.e., actual spacecraft flown by an ETI (extraterrestrial intelligence). This is one of the original theories of UFO activity and was bolstered by the Roswell Incident in 1947 and kidnappings by alien entities, such as the Barney and Betty Hill incident in 1961, in which Friedman recently wrote about.
One of Friedman’s arguments for UFOs being spaceships is trace evidence being left at sights where UFOs have been witnessed, (burned plants, flattened plants, white ash left, trace radiation ,etc) to wit Friedman claims that these phenomena are evidence of nuclear energy being employed, which happens to be his stock and trade since he’s a nuclear physicist.
It’s been many years since Frieman’s been a practicing nuclear scientist, for over forty years he’s lectured on UFO activity. I don’t know if that’s been a lucerative career for him, but he’s on the road a lot. Recently he’s made a stop in Murfreesboro, Tennessee to lecture on the subject:
Evidence is overwhelming that intelligently controlled vehicles are visiting the Earth, which would lead to a cosmic Watergate if disclosed by the government, a nuclear physicist said Saturday in Murfreesboro.
Physicist Stanton T. Friedman said he has not seen an unidentified flying object but he hasn’t seen Tokyo either, even though he knows the city exists.
His beliefs are based on years of study and interviews with citizens who sighted UFOs.
Friedman, known as the Flying Saucer Physicist, made his remarks before 80 people during the Tennessee Mutual Unidentified Flying Object Network meeting at the Baymont Suites on Armory Drive. He is a former classmate of Carl Sagan.
During his lecture, Friedman outlined four conclusions:
• The evidence is overwhelming that Planet Earth is being visited by intelligently controlled extraterrestrial spacecraft. In other words, some UFOs are alien spacecraft. Most are not.
• The subject of flying saucers represents a kind of Cosmic Watergate, meaning that some few people in major governments have known since July, 1947, when two crashed saucers and several alien bodies were recovered in New Mexico, that indeed some UFOs are ET. As noted in 1950, it’s the most classified U.S. topic.
• None of the arguments made against the first two conclusions by a small group of debunkers such as Carl Sagan, Friedman’s University of Chicago classmate for three years, can stand up to careful scrutiny.
• The Flying Saucer story is the biggest story of the millennium: visits to Planet Earth by aliens and the U.S. government’s cover-up of the best data (the bodies and wreckage) for over 50 years.
The federal government is not close to disclosure about UFOs because it would have serious implications to technology and the economy. Church attendance would increase but the stock market would decrease. Fundamentalist church groups would be upset because it would be a contradiction to their doctrine.
Also, governments fear young people will feel allegiance to the world, not their own countries. Big powers would be afraid of loss of power.
UFOs are coming to Earth using energy the world doesn’t know about now, he said. Big oil companies might feel threatened if this technology were shared with mankind.
The more education a person has, the more likely they are to believe the Earth is being visited by UFOs, Friedman said.
Friedman first became interested in UFOs after reading a book in 1958. He worked for 14 years on the development of classified, advanced nuclear and space systems for GE, General Motors, Westinghouse, McDonnell Douglas and Aerojet General Nucleonics.
He gave his first lecture in 1967 and in the mid-1970s began the civilian investigation of the recovery of crashed flying saucers near Roswell, N.M.
Friedman spoke to Jesse Marcell Sr., who was the intelligence officer at a nearby air base. Marcell went to the crash site with a rancher and viewed the debris field. Jesse Marcell Jr. later wrote “Roswell Legacy” about his father’s experiences and his recollection of his father bringing home part of the debris.
Friedman interviewed Barney and Betty Hill, who claimed they were abducted Sept. 19, 1961 while driving in New Hampshire. They went under hypnosis separately and told about their experiences.
He has published more than 90 UFO articles, co-authored “Crash at Corona: The Definitive Study of the Roswell Incident” and the new 2008 “Flying Saucers and Science.”
During the lecture, Friedman showed members a power point presentation about the Roswell investigation in 1947.
The meeting was broadcast worldwide on short wave.
Max Mitchell of Kingsport, the state chief MUFON investigator, said there have been 96 reports in 2009 of UFOs investigated by MUFON as of November in Tennessee.
Participant Don Odom of Lewisburg, a retired Tennessee Wildlife Resources Officer, said his most memorable sighting while driving. He stopped his truck and a 150-foot long object floated by. It was 300 to 500 feet away and had 22 porthole lights and strobe lights on the top and bottom. It was red, white and blue.
He is now a MUFON field investigator.
Alyson Burgess, director of public relations for Tennessee MUFON headquartered in Memphis, said the mission statement of MUFON emphasizes the scientific study of UFOs for the benefit of humanity.
“We here at Tennessee MUFON take the mission statement to heart by galvanizing our current membership and helping it to grow,” Burgess said. “We may be part of a scientific finding that may benefit mankind.”
The MUFON organisation generally tries to stick to the scientific method to gather evidence of UFOs and I commend them for that for that’s the only way credibility of the subject is going to be gained.
So far it hasn’t happened, mainly because entertainment types have dominated the UFO meme and a carnival atmosphere have taken over serious convention gatherings.
Someday perhaps, knowledge will be shared among the population of the planet and it will be an eye-opener.
But not today.
Mars Jump Gates and UFO Nuclear Secrets
Who needs the Constellation Program when we already possess the technology to go to Mars and build underground cities and bases there?
According to Andrew D. Basiago, we (meaning the US) have jump-gate and time travel capability that was stolen from Nicola Tesla before he died in 1946.
Interesting interview on Red Ice Creations.
Andrew D. Basiago – Comments, Questions and Answers
The military implications of UFO activity has silently been a concern to the national security alphabet soup agencies and the military for over 60 some-odd years, although publicly denied.
Now there is going to be a college lecture on the subject in Wilmington, North Carolina:
At a nuclear missile launch site in North Dakota, a guard spots a mysterious bright light hovering over the location of each rocket silo.
Below ground, officers on duty notice their missiles start to activate one by one.
In the launch capsule, an officer orders emergency procedures when he sees every bomb targeted by the intruder prepare to fire.
UFO researcher Robert Hastings has recorded this and other testimony from retired U.S. military personnel who worked at nuclear facilities over the past four decades. He says there’s a pattern of UFOs targeting nuclear launch sites not just in the United States, but around the world.
“One might interpret that as these beings attempting to send a warning to us humans that we are playing with fire,” Hastings said. “Alternatively, it could be that these beings are planning to invade Earth and don’t want to inhabit a radioactive wasteland.”
A retired laboratory analyst and lifelong UFO investigator, Hastings will give a free lecture and slideshow in the Burney Center at the University of North Carolina Wilmington at 7 p.m. today Hastings says his findings confirm beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of UFOs and their concern to top-level military and intelligence officials.
“I’m trying to get this message out to the public to let people know that this is not science fiction, this is not Hollywood, this is not the funny pages – this is absolutely real,” Hastings said.
In more than 30 years of research on UFO sightings, Hastings has collected testimony from 120 veterans, and reviewed thousands of de-classified Air Force, FBI and CIA documents. He has appeared on CNN’s Larry King Live, spoken at more than 500 colleges and published a book on his findings last year. His presentation at UNCW is part of the campus’ ACE Voice program, a series of speakers invited to bring fresh perspectives to campus.
Decades of research was kindled by a mysterious sighting one night during Hastings’ high school job as a janitor at an Air Force base in Montana in 1967. As Hastings cleaned the radar room, an officer on duty told him they were monitoring UFOs in the area, and showed him five hovering objects on the radar screen. Within minutes, the officer grew tense and ordered Hastings out of the room. Later, the officer refused to discuss what had happened. With that, a lifelong quest was born.
Hastings’ focus is on collecting firsthand accounts from military veterans of UFO sightings and activity during their service time. He conducts careful research to confirm each source’s background, and corroborates each account with other eyewitness descriptions and de-classified government documents.
Hastings believes the government’s knowledge of UFOs is kept quiet out of fear of public panic if the information was released.
Over the years, Hastings says he has seen half a dozen UFOs with his own eyes, including a set of bright lights hovering over radio and TV towers in Albequerque that covered eight miles in three seconds. Though Hastings emphasizes that he is only speculating, he believes that at least one race of alien visitors has been monitoring Earth for a long time.
“I think we’re slowly as a race being acquainted with their reality and presence here, and at some point they’re going to leave no doubt in anyone’s mind that that’s what’s going on,” Hastings said.
Hastings has also been on the Paracast about this subject too.
My belief is that the military doesn’t do anything because it can’t do anything about it!
Lecture at UNCW will focus on military concerns about UFOs
UFO Chem-Trails and More Chinese UFO
Via Rochester Paranormal:
Stanton T. Friedman on ufo’s.
Recently the weather here in Western New York had gifted us with clear conditions in a region known for its natural overcast or chem-trails produced by aircraft, which skeptics have informed me are really only contrails. Which is interesting as I have actually witnessed high altitude aircraft minus any evidence of chem-trail or contrails.
This past summer I had also witnessed two high altitude aircraft laying down chem-trails which were traveling on a collision path. Where upon contact had flown through each other in then continuing independently across an open sky.
Perhaps evidence of a matrix existence not so far removed from the original movie script where many people have reported experiencing phenomena which lead them to more thoroughly question the solidity of what we today call reality.
So with such optimal weather condition had I taken advantage by visiting one of several locations known to have ufological activity.
Our first night out proved cold with only a few aircraft flyovers complete with an occasional shooting star.
Our second night produced visual observation on a singular illuminated object which remained semi stationary for almost three minutes before blinking out as if someone had turned off a light switch.
So while unknown object had remained in view was I able to capture a number of images now provided here in animation as evidence.
I certainly look at high-flying aircraft and the ‘contrails’ that are left a little more closely than I used to.
Morgellons? Electro-magnetic reflective materials? Hmm…
Remember the UFO flying over a Chinese city recently?
Well, here’s a photo from Google Earth:
An sharp-eyed reader has sent us these intriguing images […] of what looks like a possible UFO hovering or zooming above the rooftops of the city of Shenzhen in China. What might be a some sort of tail is preceded by what hazily appears to be a classic metallic flying saucer.
Is this object of extraterrestrial Origin? In the past few years, UFO sightings in this part of China have been an almost weekly affair.
I take what Mike Cohen posts on the All News Web with multiple grains of salt usually, but I find these photos intriguing.
Especially if there’s any truth that they were snapped by Google Earth.
UFO found on Google Earth over Chinese city?
Could Q-life be UFOs?
UFOs by far are some of the most unexplained mysteries of the 21st Century. Nobody has any hard physical evidence of their existence (but trace evidence at certain sites do) and of course eye-witness accounts still come in.
This week I posted an article from Kevin Randle on how the ‘old geezers’ of UFO study has solved the problem long ago. And I posted some articles against that argument, but not too much. I really wanted to get more responses from other readers about the ETH (nuts and bolts theory/extraterrestrial hypothesis). And I wasn’t disappointed by the answers I got. One of the most prevalent answers I got was about the ‘cryptoterrestrial’ or an earlier life form that evolved intelligence and went through an intellectual ‘singularity’ before humans have ever evolved intelligence.
Thus during the centuries of our existence, these beings have always observed us, occasionally interacting with us at a level that early humans, and even today some would call supernaturally.
And that is the cusp point we are with UFO studies now; the ‘nuts and bolts’ folks and the folks who theorize the phenomenon is more along the lines of the paranormal, the realm of ghosts, spirits, demons, angelic beings or telekenetic formations.
My thoughts lean more toward the nuts and bolts side, simply because at some sites physical trace evidence such as burns, chemical changes and metallic flaking/powders has been collected by MUFON researchers. At paranormal visitations/sites there is usually no trace evidence left at all, other than questionable photographic evidence.
So to me, Clarke’s Third Law still holds up.
That doesn’t mean UFOs are alien in nature, it just means whomever, or whatever is doing this stuff, their tech is like magic to us.
So which brings me to this; what kind of life would possess this magic/tech?
Well, according to Peter Fotis Kapnistos, “Q-life” :
The introduction of modern science finally consigned ghosts and spirits to the fantasy zone of delusions and superstitions. In our day, eminent reasoned thinkers are in charge of our scientific and educational systems. But the swift growth of astrobiology in the past few years has presented an exceptional challenge. Several popular theories have been proposed about the possible basis of alien life. The latest phase in the critical analysis of extraterrestrial life now focuses on what physicist and astrobiologist Paul Davies recently described as “Q-life.”
“A century and a half after Charles Darwin published On The Origin of Species, the origin of life itself remains a stubborn mystery, and is deeply problematic. The simplest known living organism is already stupendously complex, and it is inconceivable that such an entity would arise spontaneously by chance self-assembly. Most researchers suppose that life began either with a set of self-replicating, digital-information-carrying molecules much simpler than DNA, or with a self-catalyzing chemical cycle that stored no precise genetic information but was capable of producing additional quantities of the same chemical mixture. Both these approaches focus on the reproduction of material substances, which is only natural because, after all, known life reproduces by copying genetic material. However, the key properties of life — replication with variation, and natural selection — do not logically require material structures themselves to be replicated. It is sufficient that information is replicated. This opens up the possibility that life may have started with some form of quantum replicator: Q-life, if you like.”
Q-life –– set apart as a “life form without material structure” –– ironically harks back to our ancient belief in spirits. According to Professor Davies, the benefit of simply copying information at the quantum level, instead of building rigid duplicate molecular structures, is speed: “Q-life can therefore evolve many orders of magnitude faster than chemical life,” Davies pointed out. The environment of theoretical Q-life is unclear, but the surfaces of interstellar grains or the interiors of comets could allow “low-temperature environments with rich physical and chemical potential.”
The possibility of a quantum replicator became evident in 2007, when an international panel from the Russian Academy of Sciences, the Max Planck Institute of Germany, and the University of Sydney found that under certain conditions galactic dust “comes alive” in outer space. The panel’s chief researcher, V.N. Tsytovich, announced that microscopic corkscrew shapes (helixes and double helixes) could form “spontaneously” in interstellar space. As they have memory and the power to reproduce, the helical strands show the necessary properties to meet the criteria for life. Since that affirmative disclosure, NASA scientists have given weight to a search for what they now call “weird life” –– organisms that lack DNA or other molecules found in life on Earth.
I have read some articles on Physorg during the year about dusts and plasma in the Universe that take on ‘life-like’ qualities, but it’s hard for me to understand their jargon.
So like most people, I tune it out.
But maybe, just maybe, there just might be K-type 3 or 4 civilizations that are dust formations around black holes, contemplating great thoughts.
Or post-singularity Kurzweillian civilizations?
Wouldn’t they be considered ‘supernatural’ by our reckoning?
The “spirit or alien” Question
Geezers and the ‘Nuts and Bolts’ Theory
UFO researcher Kevin Randle makes a pretty heady remark by claiming that the UFO mystery has been solved for years, i.e. that they are in fact extraterrestrially controlled space vessels (the ‘nuts and bolts’ theory of UFO origins):
Just recently the RRR Group posted a picture that my wife took at the MUFON Symposium in Denver and claimed that those of us on the Speakers panel were a bunch of geezers who had failed to solve the UFO question. It was time for us to get out of the way and let those younger, brighter and more enlightened take over. We had our chance and we failed.
Except we haven’t failed. We solved the problem. We have the proof that some UFOs are alien spacecraft and we can make that point over and over. The evidence for that is overwhelming, but not unlike Galileo, who failed to convince the church that there were moons orbiting Jupiter, we get a bunch of people who “refuse to look through the telescope.”
Old geezer Ted Philips, being interviewed during th MUFON Press Conference made an important point. Talking about the four thousand or so landing trace cases that he had investigated, he mentioned that once he had a description of the craft, he could predict what the landing traces would be. In other, more scientific words, we had reproducibility, meaning the same things observed under similar circumstances and the predictability that comes from repeated observation. This was science at its best and it’s something that the debunkers, the skeptics, and apparently those in the RRR Group ignore.Old geezer Chris Rutkowski (seen here) reviewed, at length, a longitudinal study of twenty years of UFO reports in Canada, looking for trends. Here again was a statistical study that provided information about what people saw and how it was identified, if it was identified and what it meant when the mundane, or what some would call the rational, did not explain the events. These were unidentified sightings that suggested alien visitation.Old geezer Stan Friedman (seen here) diverted from his normal “Flying Saucers Are Real” talk and spoke about the possibilities of interstellar travel, something the youngsters, the debunkers, and the skeptics will always reject out of hand. The distances are too vast and we just can’t travel that far with our chemical rockets.Well, of course, a chemical rocket would quickly run out of fuel, but other methods of propulsion have been discussed everywhere from science fiction to science conventions… and ways to generate the necessary energy have been discussed. Methods that aren’t beyond our current technology so that when the opposition says the Voyager spacecraft will take 70,000 years to get to the nearest star, they don’t mention that it is not accelerating. Any trip to another star will require constant acceleration until a point is reached that the craft will have to begin to slow down, but the round trip time drops considerably.
I could point here that the Air Force has been less than candid in its investigation of UFOs, slapping on ridiculous solutions just to be able to label the case. For the 1957 sightings in Levelland, Texas, which involved multiple witnesses, the UFO interacting with the environment, sightings by law enforcement officers and even the suggestion of a landing trace, the Air Force decided the sightings were weather related and the culprit was ball lightning… at the time, even science denied the existence of ball lightning. No one then seemed to catch the irony of using something that didn’t exist to explain the sightings of something else that didn’t exist, at least according to those in the Air Force.If you are interested in the duplicity of the Air Force, let me point out that according to their nearly day long investigation, their representative spoke to only three witnesses. Later, when Major Don Keyhoe suggested that there were nine witnesses, the Air Force all but called him a liar.But the truth is that both Keyhoe and the Air Force were wrong. There were many witnesses in thirteen separate locations. Many of their stories, gathered before the publicity and within minutes of their sightings were strikingly similar, including the electromagnetic effects on their vehicles engines, radios and lights.
Arp’s Theories/UFO Photography
Long before the quasar problem arose, though, Edwin Hubble himself was moved to suggest that inflation might not have taken place in the “early” Universe. He thought that new observational data was necessary in order to decide whether it was definitive. In 1947, he was waiting for the new 200-inch telescope at Mt. Palomar to be built:
“It seems likely that redshift may not be due to an expanding Universe, and much of the speculations on the structure of the universe may require re-examination… We may predict with confidence that the 200-inch will tell us whether the red-shifts must be accepted as evidence of a rapidly expanding Universe, or attributed to some new principle of nature.” (Publications of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific Vol. 59, No. 349).
Unfortunately, nothing definitive has resulted from astronomers working with the Hale telescope or the many space-borne telescopes that have been launched since then. Instead, redshift and inflation have become something of a dogma among the astronomical community and new, ever more arcane mathematical excursions have been added to the mix, as was discussed in part one.
Halton Arp was the lone voice among a crowd of scientists who conformed to the standard Big Bang model when he began to publish papers that did not demonstrate that inflation—or the Big Bang hypothesis—was valid. As Edwin Hubble predicted, Arp’s research using the 200-inch Hale reflector demonstrated “some new principle of nature.”
One of the more interesting images that substantiates the need for a revised cosmology is NGC 4319 and its companion quasar, Markarian 205. Arp called attention to the fact that the lower redshift galaxy is physically connected to the higher redshift quasar. A filament between the two objects violates the measured distances because no such connection should be possible. After all, NGC 4319 (from redshift calculations) is said to be about 600 million light-years from Earth, while Markarian 205 is around a billion light-years away.
If these objects are physically connected they must reside locally with each other at the same distance from Earth. The discrepancy in their redshifts has to be from some other factor not related to their distances—there must be something intrinsic to their makeup that leads to the deviation.
So the big question remains; “If these objects are physically attached, why are their red-shifts different, if red-shifts are indicative of distances?”
Is the paradigm of how our Universe works wrong?
Shades of the aether.
The mysterious UFO hovering over Arizona Monday has been identified. It isn’t a weather balloon and it doesn’t carry aliens.
The object was actually a massive 4,000-pound research balloon released from a NASA organization used to measure gamma ray emissions in high altitudes, according to Bill Stepp of the Columbia Scientific Balloon Facility in Palestine, Texas. The balloon was launched Sunday morning at about 7:30 a.m. from Fort Sumter, N.M., and was grounded at about 9 p.m. Monday just south of Kingman, Ariz.
Stepp said the balloon usually floats at an altitude of 130,000 feet, so on a clear day it can be seen for about 170 miles. He said the balloon has raised concern from Albuquerque to Phoenix.
This just goes to show that not all UFOs are balloons, but some balloons can be UFOs!
This was pretty obvious that this was a balloon though, no ambiguity here.
Mystery Solved: Object in Sky Indentified
But this one isn’t quite so unambiguous:
CO, May 13, 2009 – Triangle looking object. bright light on each of the three points.
Just about to get into the car heading to work. I saw a bright light that appeared to be a planet or bright star.
I don’t ever recall seeing a planet in this location so took a quick photo. The sun had not come up yet.
Image: This witness photo was cropped and enlarged in an attempt to show the triangular-shaped object. MUFON photo.
The photo shows a light in the sky but upon zooming in a triangle shaped object can easily be seen.
There is a bright light on each of the three points of the triangle.
At first I did not think it was a UFO and still don’t but it’s very unusual looking.
I did not lose sight of it, I had to go to work and figured I had not photographed anything important until I looked at it later.
In addition I saw another object and photographed it. I have no idea what it is but it appears to be moving.
Photographs over the decades haven’t been considered good enough proof concerning unknown aerial phenomenon.
How is it different than the Arizona balloon photo though? Other than the fact it was obviously a balloon, what makes any other photo of an anomaly “false” if we can’t identify what an object is?
Insurance policies against grey-goo and ignored clues
When it comes to a technological Singularity, folks like Vernor Vinge, Ray Kurzweil, Ben Goertzel, Eric Drexler and others feel this is how the future will inevitablely pan out. They note the rapid advancement of computer software technology mainly, but nanotech is right up there too as a cause celebre for the event to happen.
But what if nanotechnology isn’t a gift that is worth having?
What if it’s part of “The Great Filter?”
And what if mankind needs to throw a “Hail Mary” pass to in order to survive a “grey-goo” event?
EGR, standing for Embryo/Gestation/Rearing, is the name of a mission presented by John Hunt on Tibor Pacher’s PI Club site, where Tibor encourages the development of what he calls ‘crazy ideas.’ Crazy, that is, in terms of brainstorming, getting concepts out there for comment and growth. Hunt’s is likely to be controversial on several levels, although its goal — an insurance policy for the species — is one this site can endorse.
Why an insurance policy? As we’ve discussed recently, the number of existential threats facing our species makes the Fermi question pointed. Self-destruction would be an ignominious end for any culture, but one not inconsistent with factors as diverse as incoming asteroids, nuclear war or biological weaponry run amok. Hunt prefers to focus on a specific threat…
That singularity, of course, could produce runaway scenarios in which self-replication destroys life-forms or environments in ways that cannot be foreseen. Thus an interstellar probe, in Hunt’s view, should not be about science, but survival. Getting humans to another star, given the short-term framework forced upon us by this oncoming singularity, would involve sending frozen embryos that would be raised by android ‘parents’ aided by virtual reality once the destination has been reached. Hunt believes that many of the technologies for doing this are being developed today.
Hunt also feels that the android parents needed to raise the first generation of colonists need not be of the self-aware AI type, super-Asimo style nannies would be sufficient.
Of course, they would be very, very, very strange children.
All of this doesn’t take the UFO hypothesis into account. The current tact taken by MUFON is the ET spacecraft theory and so far there is no real hard evidence of this claim, but there has been over the decades copious amounts of trace evidence, to which debunkers claim as false.
Others such as Jacques Vallee believes UFOs as ‘etherial’ in nature and that they inhabit multiple dimensions at once. Not only that, but he theorizes that the intelligence behind them are meme-manipulating mankind (psychotronic technology) And there I think, lies the missing clues.
Mainstream science is making a huge mistake by totally blowing off the phenomenon as mass hysteria/delusions. They are missing a big component of the Fermi Paradox and The Great Filter in my view.
And John Hunt has a good point about a grey-goo incident and that we need to take out an insurance policy. The scenario could very well happen.
But my instincts tell me that all of these events; UFOs, the Singularity, government/mainstream scientific dissembling and wars are all tied together and that is the answer to both Fermi Paradox and The Great Filter.
EGR: A ‘Hail Mary’ Pass to the Stars
Pleasantly Surprised by NASA Funding and Good SETI Theater
“U.S. President Barack Obama has proposed a funding boost for NASA that provides more support for Earth sciences missions and aviation, while keeping the agency’s three space shuttles on target for a 2010 retirement.
NASA would receive $18.7 billion for the 2010 fiscal year under the budget proposal released by the White House on Thursday. That would be an increase from the $17.2 billion NASA received in 2008 and represents an overall boost of more than $2.4 billion for the space agency when coupled with the additional $1 billion it received in the recent economic stimulus bill.
The budget calls on NASA to complete International Space Station construction, as well as continue its Earth science missions and aviation research. Yet it also remains fixed to former President George W. Bush’s plan to retire the space shuttle fleet by 2010 and replace them with the new Orion Crew Exploration Vehicle, which would fly astronauts to the space station and return them to the moon by 2020.
The outline does make room for an extra shuttle flight beyond the nine currently remaining on NASA’s schedule, but only if it is deemed safe and can be flown before the end of 2010.
“The $18.7 billion budget proposal for 2010 is fiscally responsible and reflects the administration’s desire for a robust and innovative agency aligned with the president’s goals of advancing our nation’s scientific, educational, economic and security interests,” said Acting NASA Administrator Chris Scolese in a statement. “This budget ensures NASA maintains its global leadership in Earth and space research, and it advances global climate change studies, funds a robust program of human and robotic space exploration, allows us to realize the full potential of the International Space Station, advances development of new space transportation systems, and renews our commitment to aeronautics.”
There goes the opinion that Mr. Obama will gut the space program. He proved a lot of folks wrong. Myself included.
The budget isn’t set in stone though. Congress has yet to approve the bill.
Obama Budget Includes Funding Boost for NASA
From the Cult of SETI:
“In the 1970s, a small group of Canadian astronomers thought they had a method for finding planets around other stars. Their intention was not to see the planets directly, but to measure the planets’ effect on their host stars; the wobble that their host stars would have as a consequence of the planets existence. The Canadians built the requisite technology, a very sophisticated spectrometer, and looked at a half dozen stars. They didn’t find any planets. However, had they not given up so quickly, had they had a certain amount of persistence and looked at more candidate stellar systems, they would have been the first to find planets orbiting other stars. As it happens, that honor went to a couple of Swiss astronomers in 1995. It’s been 13 years since the first planet around an ordinary star was found. 51Peg was that planet, and it caused a sensation. Since then there have been over 300 planets found. That’s a lot of planet pleasure.
As those of you who are familiar with this field are aware, many of these planets are very large and very close to their suns. They are so-called hot Jupiters. They have other unfortunate properties that suggest that while there are a lot of worlds out there, many of them hardly seem like the kind of worlds with a chance for life. But that situation is changing as the data continue to come in.
There is a strong tendency for planets we find to be very close to their stars, but that’s the result of an obvious selection effect. The planets that are close to their stars are the easiest to detect.”
This is an interview with Tori Hoehler by Seth Shostak, SETI scientist and UFO debunker.
Read the mainstream version of finding ETL/ETI and form your own conclusions.
Hey, I enjoy these interviews!
Alien Safari, Part I: Slime World
And why is SETI called a “cult” by certain people?
Because it is based on a belief that is yet to be proven, i.e., that the Universe has other intelligent species and that they’ll communicate by radio waves.
Anyone who thinks that alien life would communicate by other means, or that they already might be investigating Earth, are immediately and rabidly attacked as delusional, and thusly, heretics:
PH: But while the SETI people are telling the UFO people, “you don’t have any evidence,” the UFO people are telling the SETI people, “you have even less evidence than we do.”
SS: Yes, that’s quite right, but we don’t claim that we’ve found them. That’s a big difference. They do claim that they’re here.
PH: Don’t you think that the tremendous ridicule that surrounds the UFO subject really prevents academics from looking into it?
SS: There may be something to that. It may apply to 90 percent of scientists. But scientists are well aware of many instances in which something that was very radical turned out to be true. It happens over and over again in science; that’s the way science makes the big steps. So I don’t think they would all be scared off by the fact that it’s considered radical or non-mainstream. Continental drift was not very popular at the beginning, but it gained adherents rather quickly. As soon as you have a trickle of evidence, that trickle turns into a torrent, and then what was radical yesterday is today mainstream. Now I don’t see that happening with the UFO phenomenon. ( link )
And of course, competing for private funds is there also as the interviewer points out.
I don’t know, I think the whole thing amusing and good theater! Wouldn’t it be ironic that both groups could be right in their own way?
With quantum entanglement and our increasing prowess in long range sensing/viewing technology, couldn’t we be spied upon/visited by non-corporeal entities?
Truth is always stranger than assumptions/theories/fiction. 8)
Other posts comparing SETI with religions:
David Darling’s Newsletter #39
Jennings Program (2005): MUFON letter by Stanton T. Friedman