The above title is a quote attributed to William Thomson, Lord Kelvin in the year 1900. But it is not what Thomson said. It really was said by Albert A. Michaelson, another great 19th Century physicist.
So what is the meaning of all this stuff? The fact that whenever a great scientist(s) proclaims that in our reality, there already has been all that has been discovered in Nature? That the self-same scientists are usually wrong when making such claims?
Yes to the above. And here in the early 21st Century, the more things change, the more they stay the same.:
Physicist Sean Carroll, speaking at James Randi’s “The Amazing Meeting”, tells how anomalous phenomenon simply can’t happen because the laws of physics are completely understood:
There are actually three points I try to hit here. The first is that the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood. There is an enormous amount that we don’t know about how the world works, but we actually do know the basic rules underlying atoms and their interactions — enough to rule out telekinesis, life after death, and so on. The second point is that those laws are dysteleological — they describe a universe without intrinsic meaning or purpose, just one that moves from moment to moment.
The third point — the important one, and the most subtle — is that the absence of meaning “out there in the universe” does not mean that people can’t live meaningful lives. Far from it. It simply means that whatever meaning our lives might have must be created by us, not given to us by the natural or supernatural world. There is one world that exists, but many ways to talk about; many stories we can imagine telling about that world and our place within it, without succumbing to the temptation to ignore the laws of nature. That’s the hard part of living life in a natural world, and we need to summon the courage to face up to the challenge.
There’s a lot of elements to like about the talk, and Sean Carroll is no doubt a smarter man than me, but the pre-emptive debunking of apparent anomalies in science (such as parapsychology and the evidence for the survival of consciousness) – in effect, saying that we need not even test these anomalies because the laws of physics are already understood and preclude them – left me thinking of another well-known scientist’s thoughts on the apparent completeness of science. Considering the alternative scientific viewpoints from the likes of physicist Henry Stapp, on theoretical explorations of the possibility of an afterlife, and Dean Radin’s recent work on conscious influence in the famous double-slit experiment, the famous (though possibly apocryphal) fin de siècle quote of Lord Kelvin immediately came to mind when contemplating Carroll’s pronouncements:
There is nothing new to be discovered in physics now. All that remains is more and more precise measurement.
Within a few years, science was turned on its head by relativity, and followed by quantum mechanics. One can only wonder if current-day anomalies, such as those explored by parapsychologiests, might one-day lead to some similar revolution, this time involving consciousness or information as primary elements of the cosmos.
Although Greg is understandably mistaken about Lord Kelvin’s quote, he is spot on about Carroll’s proclamations and I am surprised that Carroll actually made such claims.
Well, maybe not. I guess it just shows the inherent uber-conversatism in science.
But in the general population, not so much.
I think we might be ready for a new physics that breaks Mankind out into the Universe and answers some of our questions about Consciousness, UFOs, ghosts and other paranormal activities.
As always, many hat tips to Greg Taylor’s Daily Grail.
From Huffington Post:
Lord Martin Rees recently offered The Huffington Post his opinion about UFOs:
“No serious astronomer gives any credence to any of these stories … I think most astronomers would dismiss these. I dismiss them because if aliens had made the great effort to traverse interstellar distances to come here, they wouldn’t just meet a few well-known cranks, make a few circles in corn fields and go away again.”
Such sweeping statements from well regarded scientists are endlessly frustrating to the UFO researcher. Particularly given that interest in UFOs actually drives some people to study astronomy! Unfortunately the idea that only kooks see UFOs is prevalent.
But because Lord Rees is a scientist, the correct answer is to provide him with scientific data that is directly relevant to his claim. I am aware of only three attempts to scientifically gauge what percentage of astronomers see UFOs. Two show that not only do astronomers see UFOs in America, but many are afraid to report their sightings because they fear professional and public ridicule. The final source indicates that astronomers see UFOs at a dramatically greater rate than the general population.
On August 6, 1952, Astronomer J. Allen Hynek offered the USAF’s Project Blue Book a “Special Report on Conferences with Astronomers on Unidentified Aerial Objects.”
Hynek interviewed some 45 astronomers on their experiences and opinions about UFOs during and following the meeting of the American Astronomical Society that June. Hynek provides some notes on each individual astronomer and their opinions. Here’s what some astronomers thought in 1952:
Astronomer Y (no sightings) said, “If I saw one, I wouldn’t say anything about it.”
Astronomer II (two sightings) “is willing to cooperate but does not wish to have notoriety,” Hynek reports.
Astronomer OO: (one sighting) was a new observer at the Harvard Meteor Station in New Mexico. He saw two lights moving in parallel that were too fast for a plane and too slow for a meteor. He had not reported his observation.
Hynek concluded: “Over 40 astronomers were interviewed of which five had made sightings of one sort or another. This is a higher percentage than among the populace at large. Perhaps this is to be expected, since astronomers do, after all, watch the skies.”
The next data point comes from 1977. Dr. Peter Sturrock made a questionnaire about UFO attitudes and experiences. Again the target was the members of the American Astronomical Society. The paper was eventually printed in 1994 in the Journal of Scientific Exploration, a peer-reviewed but decidedly non-mainstream publication.
Sturrock received 1,356 responses from 2,611 questionnaires. Sixty-two astronomers responded that they had observed something they could not explain which could be relevant to the UFO phenomenon. Eighteen of those witnesses said they had previously reported their sightings, and Sturrock notes that a 30% reporting rate is greater than what is assumed for the average population. Section 3.2 of the paper titled “Comparison of Witnesses and Non-Witnesses” contains a table showing that UFO witnessees were actually more likely to be night sky observers (professional or amateur) while non-witnesses are more likely to not even be observing the skies at all!
Sturrock also includes commentary from the astronomers, and again a sample is illuminating:
C1. “I object to being quizzed about this obvious nonsense. Unidentified = unobserved or factually unrecorded: modern mythology. Too much respectability given to it.”
C1O. “l find it tough to make a living as an astronomer these days. It would be professionally suicidal to devote significant time to UFOs. However, I am quite interested in your survey.”
C16. “Menzel and Condon have made further investigation unnecessary unless some really new phenomena are reported … There is no pattern to UFO reports except that they predominantly come from unreliable observers.”
I could add more, but I want folks to read Mack’s article.
Rees’ comments are not unusual for the conservative scientific community at large and in turn benefit the military-industrial-complex which runs the U.S. and most world governments. The MIC doesn’t want any release of technology that is derived(?) from supposed alien technology because it would destroy the present world order. They prefer a slow “leak” of tech in dribs and dabs which doesn’t rock the boat much. Apples Ipod and other Smart Phone technologies are relatively innocuous in that they are primarily for games and other entertainment that distracts the younger population from more important concerns.
Hat tip to the Daily Grail.
I am not the first to ask this and certainly not the last. In fact over at Micah Hank’s Mysterious Universe blog, researcher and author Nick Redfern asks the very same question and entertains some very interesting thoughts:
A few days ago, I wrote a Top 10-themed post at my World of Whatever blog on what I personally see as some of the biggest faults of Ufology. It was a post with which many agreed, others found amusing, and some hated (the latter, probably, because they recognized dubious character traits and flaws that were too close to home, and, as a result, got all moody and defensive. Whatever.). But, regardless of what people thought of the article, it prompted one emailer to ask me: “What do you think of the future for Ufology?” Well, that’s a very good question. Here’s my thoughts…
First and foremost, I don’t fear, worry or care about Ufology not existing in – let’s say, hypothetically – 100 years from now. Or even 200 years. In some format, I think that as a movement, it will still exist. I guess my biggest concern is that nothing will have changed by then, aside from the field having become even more dinosaur-like and stuck in its ways than it is today, still filled with influential souls who loudly demand we adhere to the Extra-Terrestrial Hypothesis and nothing else, still droning on about Roswell, still obsessed with what might be going on at Area 51, still debating on what Kenneth Arnold saw, and still pondering on what really happened at Rendlesham.
Ufology’s biggest problem also happens to be what made the Ramones the greatest band that ever existed: never-changing. For the latter, it worked perfectly. If, like me, you liked the mop-topped, super-fast punks in the beginning, then you still like them when they disbanded in 1996. Throughout their career, they looked the same, sounded the same, and were the same. For them, it worked very well. For Ufology, not so well. Not at all.
The reality is that 65 years after our Holy Lord and Master (Sir Kenneth of Arnoldshire) saw whatever it was that he saw on that fateful June 24, 1947 day, Ufology has been static and unchanging. It has endorsed and firmly embraced the ETH not as the belief-system which it actually is, but as a likely fact. And Ufology insists on doing so in stubborn, mule-like fashion. In that sense, Ufology has become a religion. And organized religion is all about upholding unproved old belief-systems and presenting them as hard fact, despite deep, ongoing changes in society, trends and culture. Just like Ufology.
If Ufology is to play a meaningful role in the future, then it needs to focus far less on personal beliefs and wanting UFOs to be extraterrestrial, and far more on admitting that the ETH is just one theory of many – and, while not discarding the ETH, at least moving onwards, upwards and outwards. Can you imagine if the major UFO conference of the year in the United States had a group of speakers where the presentations were on alien-abductions and DMT; the Aleister Crowley-Lam controversy; Ufological synchronicities; and the UFO-occult connection? And Roswell, Area 51, and Flying Triangles weren’t even in sight at all?
Well, imagine is just about all you’ll be able to do, as it ain’t gonna happen anytime soon!
While such matters do, of course, occasionally get mentioned on the UFO-themed lecture circuit today, the fact is that mainstream Ufology (and specifically mainstream ufological organizations, where more time is spent on deciding what utterly ridiculous title everyone will have than on doing investigations) will largely not touch such matters, or even consider them ripe for debate at their conferences. Why? Simple: they want everything to be as it was in the “Good Old Days” of the past. Well, tough: the past is gone, and no-one has succeeded in proving the ETH. So, give the highly alternative theories – and theorists – a chance for a change.
“Nooooo!” cries the old brigade. For them, that won’t work at all, because they don’t want to see the ETH-themed domain that has been so carefully nurtured for decades infected and infiltrated by matters ignorantly perceived as being of a “Hocus Pocus” nature. What they do want is crashed UFOs; aliens taking soil samples; landing traces; abductions undertaken to steal our DNA, etc, etc, blah, blah. Or, as it is scientifically and technically called: Outdated Old School Shit. They don’t want talk of altered states; mind-expanding and entity-invoking drugs; conjured-up beings from other realms; or rites, rituals and manifested Tulpas.
What this stubborn attitude demonstrates is: (A) a fear of change; (B) a fear of having been on the wrong track for decades; and (C) a fear of the unknown. Yes: mainstream, old-time Ufology lives in fear. It should be living in a state of strength. And it should be a strength born of a willingness to address everything, not just the stuff that some conference organizer thinks will attract the biggest audience. But Ufology commits the biggest crime of all: being weak and unsure in the face of new concepts and making like an ostrich when it encounters sand. Actually, I’m wrong. Ufology commits an even bigger crime as it coasts aimlessly along like an empty ship on the ocean waves: it avoids the alternative theories knowingly and fully aware of the long-term, and potentially disastrous, consequences that a one-sided, biased approach may very well provoke for the field.
If Ufology is to move ahead, find answers, and actually have some meaningful future, it needs to totally do away with belief systems and recognize that every belief is just a theory, an hypothesis, an idea. And that’s all. Ufologists need to embrace alternative ideas and paradigms, since many suggest far easier, and more successful, ways of understanding the various phenomena that comprise the UFO enigma than endlessly studying radar-blips, gun-camera footage, FOIA documentation, and blurry photos.
Should Ufology fail to seize the growing challenge it already faces, then will it die or fade away? Nope, it will still be here and here, popping up now and again. Not unlike a nasty, itchy rash picked up in the “private room” at the local strip-joint on a Friday night that never quite goes away. Probably even 100 or 200 years from now. But, it will be a Ufological Tyrannosaurus Rex: its sell-by date long gone, clinging on to an era also long gone, and perceived by the public of that era as we, today, perceive those nutcases who hold on to centuries-old beliefs that if you sail far enough you’ll fall off the edge of the planet. Or, the deluded souls who think the women on those terrible “Reality TV” shows that sit around arguing over lunch are really arguing.
I agree with some of Nick’s talking points in that UFO conventions often feature speakers who often talk of the “space brothers” and how they will save us and the Earth in spite of ourselves.
That is just the money making crap and smacks of televangelism.
Paranormal events versus technical reasons for UFOs is the wrong tact however. I think there is a way to join the two, but would be very hard to test using the scientific method.
Maybe there is a way to test paranormal events in the future? I do believe a scientist has tried to do so, but it is proving very hard to confirm by testability.
Perhaps that is why new paradigms are difficult to break through. The old ones must pass away slowly into that sweet night?
The future of ufology. ( The Daily Grail )
According to a U.S. government think tank, the Collins Elite, the UFO phenomenon is actually linked with angels and demons, not aliens.
In their view, this validates Conservative Christianity and that the U.S. government must turn more theocratic in nature in order to combat the “alien” invasion and save the soul of the nation.
UFO researcher Tim Beckley believes this outlook should be given more thought and that there’s a lot of evidence for it:
It’s UFOlogy’s dirty little secret. It’s something that is better left swept under the rug. Stanton Friedman doesn’t talk about it. Stephen Bassett most assuredly would keep the subject at arm’s length. The late Richard Hall would have deleted you from his address book. And Steven Greer would never consider it part of his ongoing Disclosure program.
To coin ourselves a catch-all phrase that brings together all the negative aspects of the subject, I prefer to call it the DARK SIDE OF UFOLOGY!
It would appear – at least at first glance – that only those who consider themselves Christian fundamentalists have a rigorous drum to beat on behalf of the subject matter we are considering – that at least some UFOs can rightfully be tied in with Demonic phenomenon. It would seem to be almost an exclusive element of their zealous faith based belief system that contends anything remotely occult or supernatural—and that would definitely include UFOs — has a stanch ally in the devil and his minions. Christian apologist, Dave Hunt has stated, “the same people that run UFOs are the same people that run haunted houses.“
Indeed, it has become more apparent even by those who for decades held dearly to a deep belief that UFOs must be interplanetary in nature, that there is a paranormal nature to this enigma that cannot easily be set aside. Several top notch researchers — such as the late Dr J. Allen Hynek’s former associates Ted Phillips and Philip Imbrogno — have come to realize that we are NOT dealing solely with physical craft from outer space occupied by off-world astronauts coming to warn us that we might possibly annihilate ourselves either ecologically or in the course of our warlike nature.
More and more emphasis needs to be placed on the spiritual, occult and paranormal nature of the phenomenon seen in our skies and invading our homes and personal boundaries. It’s not all “sweetness and light,” kiddies. The truth is that there are a host of negative elements associated with UFO encounters. Some of the entities involved could very well be leading us down the primrose path. You can believe, and the evidence clearly is undisputable, that there are cosmic criminals in our midst who have successfully managed to possess and control the minds of utterly frightened participants who had no warning that they were to be caught up inside a nightmarish web of confusion and chaos.
The late Lord Hill Norton head Admiral of the British Fleet was quoted as saying he felt UFOs were demonic in nature.
There are numerous aspects of this dark side of UFOs that we examine closely in our just published book Round Trip To Hell In A Flying Saucer: UFO Parasites, Alien Soul Suckers, Invaders From Demonic Realms.
+ The connection between UFOs, demons, and possibly Satan himself.
+ The fascination for and the link between Nazism, occultism and post WWII German-made flying saucers.
+ The ghastly exercise of blood draining and human sacrifice throughout antiquity and their relationship to animal and human mutilations and blood letting in modern times, which align closely to the appearance of UFOs in specific theaters of operation on our planet.
+ The weird claims of John Lear that aliens are coming here to kidnap humans and not return them. That people are being used for food, and how “they” are performing sadistic experimentations upon us, and are attempting to suck out our souls and place them in “containers” for their own perverted use.
+ The Islamic belief in the normally invisible elementals identified in the Koran as the Jinn and how these malevolent spirits are able to misrepresent themselves by camouflaging their true identity and traveling around at fantastic speeds.
+ Shape shifters who can turn into human looking beings, animals, orbs, fireballs or manifest themselves even as physical “hardware” to fool us into believing they are mechanical devices.
+ The casting of magical spells, occult rituals and the ability to conjure up
spirits and beings often mistaken for UFOnauts but more closely aligned with the elemental kingdom.
UFO REPORTS ARE STRIKINGLY SIMILAR TO
DEMONIC POSSESSION AND PSYCHIC PHENOMENON
Long time investigator Ann Druffel says the aliens are not who they claim they are, but have sinister motives.
I don’t think a week went by when my mail box (not the one that is part of your Windows or Mac, but the one that stands, or used to stand, at the curb) wasn’t jammed with a couple of large manila envelopes from William C. Lamb.
To be honest, our “correspondence” was mostly one sided. To me, Lamb was a bit of a nutter (British for crackpot). He claimed to have images of heaven and even God’s throne that astronomers had photographed through high powered telescopes that exist on the edge of the galaxy. To him the ole man in the clouds was as real as you or I and the Lord’s Kingdom was a place you could actually see if you had a powerful enough telescope. Kind of crazy, right? Well, the story doesn’t end there. According to Lamb, he knew all about God and Satan firsthand because he had seen Beelzebub with his own eyes. No! It wasn’t part of a near-death or out-of-body experience, but a component of a UFO landing.
Lamb had been out hunting in a snowstorm around four or five AM in February 1922, as he explained, when he heard a buzzing sound and saw this huge spherical craft hovering over a nearby field. It was so large and brilliant to his eyes that it blocked out the stars and he found himself mesmerized by its sudden appearance. He watched in awe as a partition opened on the side of the craft and a gigantic creature with wings flew to the ground and landed in the snow. The being was somewhere between seven and eight feet tall and appeared demonic in its facial features and physical form. Lamb said he hid behind a tree and watched as it tracked through the snow, its hooves – yes, I said hooves – melting down to the tundra as it went along. Eventually it came to a sturdy wire fence and managed to just walk through it, burning through the mesh and leaving it looking red hot.
At the time I had every reason to believe Lamb was totally delusional. It was
obvious that he saw everything through the eyes of orthodox religion. So much so that when he was approached by this ghoulish figure he managed to get it to fly off, using the name of Jesus and commanding it to depart.
The case is known to others besides me. Apparently a letter or two from W.C. was also preserved in the Air Force’s Project Blue Book files because astute researcher Jacques Vallee mentions it in his book Passport to Magonia. Vallee has long expressed his opinions that, “UFOs are real but they are not physical. They are messengers of deception,” and that, “. . .the UFOs beings of today belong to the same class of manifestation as the (occult) entities that were described in centuries past.”
As far back as the 1960s – perhaps earlier! — certain fractions in the U.S. government and military acknowledged the occult nature of what were still referred to in many circles as flying saucers. In 1969 the U.S. Printing Office issued a 400-page publication entitled UFOs And Related Subjects, a huge compendium of over 1000 books, literature and testimonies of UFO contactees. The document was compiled for the Air Force and the Library of Congress by Lynn Catoe who in its Introduction matter-of-factly states: “A large part of the available UFO literature is closely linked with mysticism and the metaphysical. It deals with subjects like mental telepathy, automatic writing and invisible entities as well as phenomenon like poltergeist manifestations and possession. Many of the UFO reports now being published in the popular press recount alleged incidents that are strikingly similar to demonic possession and psychic phenomenon that have long been known to theologians and parapsychologists.” Others with a decisively Christian bent have expressed concern that “the aliens often encourage illicit sex, and other ungodly things.” One abductee Calvin Parker told me that aliens had caused the AIDS virus and that, “I think they are demons. I feel like it’s evil. It could come from another world, but I think it’s kind of interdimensional in this one,” Parker explained to a reporter.
Ann Druffel has been active in investigating UFOs since 1957 when she joined the National Investigations Committee on Unidentified Flying Objects. The affable author of Tujunga Canyon Contacts (co-authored by D. Scott Rogo) and How To Defend Yourself Against Alien Abduction is a no nonsense type of individual. She has paid her dues and everyone respects her opinions, even when she unhesitantly states: “The entities who pose as ‘extraterrestrials’ are not what they say they are. Rather, they are apparently unwholesome entities who have deceived and interacted with humans since the dawn of history. Be they mythic, ‘real,’ ‘spiritual,’ interdimensional or from a ‘hidden world’ which somehow exists in or alongside our own earth plane, I cannot say, since proof still eludes us. I do know for certain, however, that interfering, shape shifting, ‘otherworldly’ entities have been described by every major culture (and many smaller cultures) on the face of the earth down through the millennia, and that these older cultures developed means to fend them off or, at the very least, recognized them for what they were.”
UNCLE SAM’S DEMONIC THINK TANK
Nick Redfern is one of the few investigative journalists that is almost universally respected in a field where disagreements and lingering grudges between UFOlogists are fairly common. Recently, he authored a book, Final Events: And The Secret Government Group on UFOs and the Afterlife which just about ruined his near perfect reputation. The work details the history of a hidden think tank within the U.S. Government that believes rather than having alien origins, UFOs are really a tool of the Devil.
We sat down for a length interview with Redfern to be found in Round Trip To Hell In A Flying Saucer. Redfern explained to me that the think tank was begun to try and exploit the mental powers of what they called “Non-Human Entities,” commonly known as the Grays. “There were people in the official world,” Nick says, “that wanted to see if the mind-power of the Grays could be utilized as a form of mind-weaponry by the Pentagon, and the Department of Defense ..something along the lines of a next generation Remote Viewing type program.“ The more the Pentagon group got into the project, “the more they came to believe that the Grays were highly deceptive, and they also came to believe the Grays were actually – and quite literally – deceptive demons from Hell, who were here to deceive us about their true agenda – which was to bring people over to the dark side and prepare things for Armageddon, but to do it under the guise of a faked alien appearance,” or so Redfern reveals.
“As for abductions, the think tank believes the whole alien scenario is a scam – a series of brain-induced hallucinations provoked by these entities as a means to reinforce the idea that they are aliens here to experiment on us..” Furthermore, the they can seemingly, “provoke hallucinatory imagery in the mind: aliens, goblins, Bigfoot, etc. to make us believe we’re seeing something physical and external.”
The group came to conclude, says Redfern, “That Earth is a farm, and that we are the cattle. . .that these entities essentially are here to harvest and feed upon the energy of our soul at death because these demonic creatures are basically energy-based, and our energy feeds and fuels them.” This task is further expanded upon in our book by retired CIA “jockey” and ace pilot John Leer who has long maintained such a “peculiar” theory.
For our book Round Trip To Hell In A Flying Saucer, we have gathered together our own “think tank” of prominent individuals to express their opinions and to collectively publish their own findings. Included in this roster are Brad Steiger, Adam Gorightly, Kenn Thomas, Brent Raynes as well as the posthumous John Keel author of Trojan Horse and Mothman Prophecies.
Incorporated in this large sized work is also a little known tome published in 1955 from which we adapted the overall title of our own work. Not only did Cecil Michael claim to rub shoulders with Mr Scratch, but he says he went with him straight to hell. Proclaims the flyleaf on a very rare copy: “Here is one of the most startling stories ever written! The narrator, calmly working in his auto repair shop, suddenly finds himself playing host to a pair of visitors from outer space. From that moment his entire life is changed.
“For weeks the Spacemen practice all types of weird experiments upon their bewildered friend, who is too terrified to protest. Finally, wearying of their ingenious super-games, they decide to take the poor auto mechanic on a trip to Hell. . .And, as you descend with the narrator into a modern Inferno, you will pray, with the auto mechanic who tells the story, that his visit will be a short one.”
The British publication Magonia encapsulates Cecil Michael’s bizarre Round Trip To Hell In A Flying Saucer in this manner:
“The craft went off into space, eventually arriving at a bleak red planet with a lake of fire into which coffins were cast, the dead bodies inside them then coming to life and burning in agony. He was afraid that he would be trapped there permanently, but apparently he was saved by a vision of Christ that appeared in a beam of white light, and returned to Earth. The trip seemed to have taken four days, but only four hours had passed.”
Without a doubt this can be said to be our oddest contribution to the overall body of UFO and paranormal literature we have published over the last five decades. It discusses a theory that is straight out of the movie The Exorcist.
To many it will be a difficult to accept concept. To others it is something that they already recognize as part of their on going faith. It is none the less a premise that needs to be explored.
An old Sir Arthur C. Clarke saying comes to mind in this instance; “A sufficiently advanced alien technology is indistuigishable from magic.”
I don’t think a truly alien intelligence would be an exclusive view-point of a local planetary religion, but would perhaps disguise itself as one in order to carry out an objective.
Hat tip to The Anomalist.
From Kurzweil AI:
1. Your great-great-grandma was probably not from outer space.
“I get emails every week saying that Homo sapiens are the result of alien intervention. I’m not sure why aliens would be interested in producing us. I think people like to think we’re special. But isn’t that what got Galileo and Copernicus into trouble – questioning how special we were? But if we’re just another duck in the road, it’s not very exciting.”
2. If aliens come, we’re probably toast.
“Whoever takes the trouble to come visit us is probably a more aggressive personality. And if they have the technology to come here, the idea that we can take them on is like Napoleon taking on U.S. Air Force. We’re not going to be able to defend ourselves very well. But if I wanted that to be correct, it would be a very short movie.”
3. They won’t catch our colds.
“Alien life forms wouldn’t come here only to be done in by our bacteria, unless they were related biochemically to humans. Bacteria would have to be able to interact with their biochemistry to be dangerous, and their ability to do that is far from a sure thing.”
4. Aliens don’t look like Screen Actors Guild members.
“Thanks to computer animation, we now have more variety of aliens in films, but they’re still soft and squishy—and big on mucus. Chances are, the first invaders will be some sort of artificially intelligent machinery. But in films, even machinery needs to look like biology, otherwise actors would be talking to a box.”
5. Nobody’s getting lucky.
“The idea that they’ve come for breeding purposes is more akin to wishful thinking by members of the audience who don’t have good social lives. Think about how well we breed with other species on Earth, and they have DNA. It would be like trying to breed with an oak tree.”
I think Dr. Shostak listens to too much Dr. Hawking, but that’s just my opinion.
As to his last point, he doesn’t think too much about the theory of interplanetary ( interstellar ) panspermia.
He should read this article about the ” red rain ” espisode in Kerala, India in 2001.
Maybe life in the Universe is related at the basic level?
When one looks at the above title, the individual has to ask, WTF?
What could these three things have in common?
When the first mention of UFOs in the tranche of diplomatic papers unveiled by Wikileaks proved to be less than explosive, the ufological rumour machine went into interstellar overdrive with a wackyleak of its own, released on 17 January via ‘Allnewsweb’:
New secret UFO Wikileaks cable revealed
A source from within the inner circle of the Wikileaks team has confidentially leaked to All News Web the content of a State Dept cable, concerning UFO affairs, that Wikileaks has declined to upload onto their website.
“It is critical all embassy staff understand that they are not to discuss under any circumstance concerns DOD has with UFOs entering orbit, once again the seriousness of this matter cannot be overstated”
The cable was sent on 9 November, 2005 by the State Dept to a diplomat connected to the US embassy in Kiev, Ukraine.
Unlike Wikileaks’ own releases this one contained no actual documents (couldn’t they at least have made one up?), just a sensational message that was sure to get Exopolitical juices flowing and make Wikileaks look a bit hokey if the story ever escaped into the mainstream media – which, by the way, it didn’t. It even copied the Russian origin for this alleged cable from the earlier Wikileaks release, which emerged from the US embassy in Minsk.
The author of this message, and others like it (‘Barack Obama to make UFO Announcment’ etc), was one Michael Cohen, while the site carrying the story, Allnewsweb is part of the All News Network, which describes itself as ‘The Official News for the Tea Party’ and appears to allow anyone to post stories as long as they don’t obviously conflict with the Tea Party message. (Update: There seems to be some question as to the extent that the site is actually connected to the movement – see comments below).
The computer hackers’ collective Anonymous has uncovered a proposal by a consortium of private contractors to attack and discredit WikiLeaks…
The PowerPoint presentation claims that a trio of internet security companies – HB Gary Federal, Palantir Technologies and Berico Technologies – are already prepared to attack WikiLeaks which is rumoured to be getting ready to release a cache of potentially embarrassing information on the Bank of America.
The presentation, which has been seen by The Independent, recommends a multi-pronged assault on WikiLeaks including deliberately submitting false documents to the website to undermine its credibility, pioneering cyber attacks to expose who the leakers to WikiLeaks are and going after sympathetic journalists.
Now I don’t want to make any grand leaps of conspiratorial connectivity, but I will propose the following:
if someone was trying to discredit Wikileaks – and there are many people and organisations who might wish to do so – then one way to do it might be to stir up nonsense UFO stories (the ‘Allnews’ posting was just a few days after the first bona fide, if unsensational, UFO-related diplomatic paper had gone public) and disseminate them via a grass roots, broadly right-leaning political movement. This would certainly add an extra dimension to the idea of astro-turfing!
Whether Michael Cohen is an apolitical hoaxer, perhaps one hoping to turn a fast web-buck (see Kandinsky’s comment below), an overzealous believer in ET visitation, a ‘private security’ specialist working on behalf of someone else, or a mixture of all of the above, remains to be seen. In the mean time it’ll be interesting to look into the amount of cross over between the Tea Party movement, which is a very broad church, and the UFO/Exopolicial movement.
This isn’t the first time Michael Cohen has been accused of being a hoaxer, even on the conspiracy forum Above Top Secret he is considered persona non grata.
To be fair, I have posted and linked to Allnewsweb occasionally, if for no other reason than to grab some UFO stuff rather lazily on my part on a slow posting day. Guilty as charged.
But to take the site seriously? Naaah, not even close.
However, I still follow the UFO subject closely because it has the potential to become an explosive meme. It doesn’t matter if it’s hoaxed or not to become viral on the InnerTubes to attain religious value.
Just witness the Jerusalem UFOs on YouTube.
This past Sunday Gene Steinberg and co-host Chris O’Brien interview Dr. Frank Salisbury and discuss nuts n’ bolts UFOs, the paranormal theory of UFOs, Jacques Vallee, the Skinwalker Ranch, the “greys” theology and parallel dimensions. Excellent interview.
My ol’ pal Highwayman and I have been having quite a discussion lately (with him doing most of the ‘discussin’ of course lol!) about Dr. Hawking, God and such. While talking about spiritual things leave me feeling a little itchy, I of course ran across this little synchronistic piece on Jason Offutt’s blog From the Shadows about a man who suffered an injury playing a sport and then has the ability of precognition:
Bob Higgins went for a rebound in a Mormon Church gym when someone cut out his legs and he fell to the court, his head bouncing off the hard wood floor.
“I suffered an extremely hard concussion and lived,” Higgins said.
Higgins, a Catholic, had twisted his ankle playing in that gym before, and after his teammates dismissed his injury, he vowed to God he’d never play there again. But he did – and as Higgins lie on the floor unconscious, he felt his spirit leave his body.
“I was out and floated up through the hoop looking down at myself as my teammates carried me off,” he said.
Higgins said he could see a clear silver strand connecting his spirit self to his physical body as his teammates moved his body onto a stage adjacent to the court. Then they left his body there and resumed the game. His spirit self stood, watching the game until he saw people approaching.
“A group of what I think were angels began walking my way,” he said. “Then out of the group a small man came having been directed by a taller bearded man from a group of robed men.”
This small man reached out to Higgins and carried him up a tunnel of light.
“We arrived at a large glass-like temple with black and gold flakes in the shiny floor, mostly black,” he said. “The purple curtains were very tall all around.”
Higgins’ guide took him up steps to a throne holding a bearded man.
“He had dark black hair and bore scars on his hands and feet and face,” Higgins said. “I am sure it was Jesus. He looked like a biker, not menacing but authoritative and in control.”
This man Higgins believed to be Jesus wore sandals of gold and jewels. He looked at Higgins, then, unsmiling, gave commands to the small man who had brought him there.
“I felt kind of ashamed to be there because I really didn’t want to be there,” Higgins said. “I knew he knew all about me, but it went so quickly and I felt like it as a blur and I really had no control of myself at this point. I could think and see, but I didn’t breath or feel anything; I was just an it.”
The man on the throne gestured to a person Higgins felt was an angel. The angel took Higgins by the arm and led back to the tunnel. Higgins didn’t like what waited for him back in the gym.
“We descended swiftly and I found myself sitting up still out of my body and I saw around me large men in bright robes; large blonde men with backsides like ‘he men,’” Higgins said. “Very big guys fighting with fierce looking scraggly men trying to reach around savagely at me with long nails; dirty desperate looking men who I could barely make out in the darkness.”
These unkempt men in rags fought with Higgins’ angels, trying to grab Higgins, then one angel touched Higgins and he woke.
“Whoa, I had a headache,” Higgins said. “I had to be carried back to my apartment with a concussion and off work for a week.”
Higgins believes his experience has to do with breaking his promise to God.
“I think I let the devil in,” he said. “I had not kept my vow not to play ball with the Mormons because I had been hurt before playing ball with them and they just left me there. Mormons aren’t bad, it was just a failure on my part to keep my vow.”
Something happened to Higgins after his concussion – something that lets him see future horrors.
“I got warnings of attacks in my sleep about terrorists, through the first Trade Center bombing and the Oklahoma City bombing,” he said.
His most terrifying premonition was on Sept. 10, 2001.
“A spirit tried to wake me the night before 9-11 and told me, ‘Wake up young man, your nation is under attack,’” Higgins said. “I asked in my sleep, ‘Where? Where? By whom?”
The spirit told him Washington, D.C., and New York.
“I was so disturbed to see rubble and smoke as if I was propelled in time to the scene,” Higgins said. “I was choking.”
Higgins kicked in his sleep and woke his wife who asked what was wrong.
“I told her what the spirit said to me and she remembered it later that morning and was astonished,” he said. “I was sorely confused. I thought about it all morning and I couldn’t decide what I should do.”
He realized there was nothing he could do.
“I felt bad knowing this and not doing anything to this day,” Higgins said. “Watching in horror as the planes hit the second time then people jumping to their deaths.”
Remember that I said earlier that this was a synchronicity coming across this recent post by Offutt? Well, he was a guest on the Paracast the past weekend in which he discussed his book about finding paranormal objects and activities literally in your backyard.
The synchronicity isn’t about finding something in my yard (other than cats and woodchucks) but about coming across Jason Offutt related stuff in two days that talks about a religious vision while talking about religion with the Highwayman.
I know, that’s reaching, but it’s cool, is it not?
Enrico Fermi, whose famous lunch-time theory has transcended the decades was a believer.
Yes, a believer.
According to Mori of Forgetomori, Fermi not only questioned ‘why’ we haven’t seemed to have been visited by aliens, he actually believed they existed:
According to “Dr. SETI“, H. Paul Shuch, from the official SETI League, “physicist Enrico Fermi, said to be a firm believer in the existence of extra-terrestrials, was frustrated by the lack of firm evidence of their existence”. Wait a minute, Fermi actually believed in the existence of aliens?
That may sound preposterous given that his famous Paradox is one of the most referenced arguments advanced against the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations, but amazingly, it probably is true.
Fermi unfortunately passed away in 1954, shortly after he formulated his paradox. He didn’t publish the concept in written form, rather it was just an idea discussed by him with colleagues at lunch. That was then often quoted and referenced by others for decades afterwards. This probably explains why his original idea came to be so misunderstood.
It was only in 1985 that someone seems to have decided to actually document the origins of the paradox, and sadly, even this work is widely ignored. That’s the report from Los Alamos National Laboratory, “Where is Everybody?’: An Account of Fermi’s Question“, by scientist Eric M. Jones.
Jones interviewed those present at that historic lunch at Los Alamos in the summer of 1950. They were Emil Konopinski, Herbert York and Edward Teller, and he provided accounts of the conversation by all of them.
Interestingly, the paradox was related to the cartoon seen above. Konopinski wrote:
“I do have a fairly clear memory of how the discussion of extra-terrestrials got started while Enrico, Edward, Herb York, and I were walking to lunch at Fuller Lodge. When l joined the party, I found being discussed evidence about flying saucers. That immediately brought to my mind a cartoon I had recently seen in the New Yorker, explaining why public trash cans were disappearing from the streets of New York City. The New York papers were making a fuss about that. The cartoon showed what was evidently a flying saucer sitting in the background and, streaming toward it, ‘little green men’ (endowed with antennas) carrying the trash cans. More amusing was Fermi’s comment, that it was a very reasonable theory since it accounted for two separate phenomena: the reports of flying saucers as well as the disappearance of the trash cans.”
Edward Teller also recalled:
“I remember that Fermi explicitly raised the question, and I think he directed it at me, ‘Edward, what do you think? How probable is it that within the next ten years we shall have clear evidence of a material object moving faster than light?’ I remember that my answer vas ‘ 1 o-6.. Fermi said, ‘This is much too low. The probability is more like ten percent’ (the well known figure for a Fermi miracle.) “
The discussion then went on to other topics, as they arrived at the luncheon table. It “had nothing to do with astronomy or with extraterrestrial beings. I think it was some down-to-earth topic. Then, in the middle of this conversation, Fermi came out with the quite unexpected question ‘Where is everybody?‘ … The result of his question was general laughter because of the strange fact that in spite of Fermi’s question coming from the clear blue, everybody around the table seemed to understand at once that he was talking about extraterrestrial life”, Teller wrote to Jones. “I do not believe that much came of this conversation, except perhaps a statement that the distances to the next location of living beings may be very great and that, indeed, as far as our galaxy is concerned, we are living somewhere in the sticks, far removed from the metropolitan area of the galactic center”, Teller added.
But York believes that Fermi was somewhat more expansive and “followed up with a series of calculations on the probability of earthlike planets, the probability of life given an earth, the probability of humans given life, the likely rise and duration of high technology, and so on. He concluded on the basis of such calculations that we ought to have been visited long ago and many times over. As I recall, he went on to conclude that the reason we hadn’t been visited might be that interstellar flight is impossible, or, if it is possible, always judged to be not worth the effort, or technological civilization doesn’t last long enough for it to happen.” York confessed to being hazy about these last remarks.
Note how York confirms that Fermi assumed extraterrestrial civilizations existed, only that their non-arrival must have meant something stops them on their way. That’s exactly the position taken by SETI scientists to this day.
Eric Jones’ report can be downloaded at the FAS website:
One could argue that UFOs are proof of alien civilizations, but most UFOs seem to exhibit characteristics more akin to paranormal activity, i.e., ghosts, hauntings, shapeshifting, etc. Definitely ‘nuts and bolts’ explanations and trace evidence is in the minority, thus robust scientific proof is hard coming.
But as Arthur C. Clarke once said, ” A sufficiently advanced technological society will appear to the less technological as magic.”
Maybe we better keep that in mind.
Fermi believed in aliens? What a paradox! (From August 2007)
On March 7, 2010, the ESA (European Space Agency)’s probe Mars Express performed a fly-by of Mars’ moon Phobos to take pictures and check its mass using radar. The camera was able to measure a field 15 feet across, quite an accomplishment on a small object 15 miles long. The amazing feature of Phobos however is its layered striations and lateral pockmarks:
Quite interesting, is it not? Not surprisingly, that purveyor of Lunar crystal cities and Mars faces, Richard Hoagland, points out these features prove that Phobos is artificial!
To be fair however, Hoagland uses the probe’s radar readings to measure the moon’s mass to make his point. Amazingly, he could actually have something to go on here!:
[…]By extremely careful measurements of the actual “radio frequency drift,” recorded during these Phobos “close-approaches,” and by then plugging that data into sophisticated ESA computer models of Phobos interior mass distribution, each varying slightly, and designed according to “Newtonian and Einsteinien Laws of Gravity” … the ESA folks expected to not only be able to measure accurately the overall MASS of Phobos far more precisely than ever before … but, even more importantly–
For the first time, resolve”how” that detected mass was arranged — INSIDE — as measured against the Mars Express “gravity tracking data.”
Normally, even the first results of such a delicate experiment would “wait weeks before it was posted … if it ever was”; ESA this timeposted the “early Doppler results of this ‘super close’ Phobos March 3rd pass” … on March 9th–
Barely one week after the fly-by itself!
And then — described in detail, the science behind the published radio-tracking graph (below):
“ … The Mars Express Radio-Science team, led by Martin Pätzold (Cologne University), has performed a preliminary analysis of the radiometric data recorded during the evening of closest approach, 3 March 2010 …
“The grey line in the image [above] shows the frequency change due to Phobos during a 20-minute window, centered on the closest approach. Before closest approach, the effect of Phobos on the spacecraft is negligible. Then there is a clear jump in frequency at closest approach. This is Phobos slightly changing the orbit of Mars Express.
“The blue line is the expected frequency change assuming the mass of Phobos, as measured during a previous flyby, is evenly distributed throughout the moon’s interior. There are clearly small differences between the blue and grey lines. The challenge now for the Radio-Science team is to dig into these small differences to pries out information on the mass distribution. “The real work starts right here,” says Pätzold.“It may take a few weeks for the extraction of precise information on the interior of Phobos,” says Tom Andert, from Munich University [emphasis added] ….”
One of the responders to this post, on the official ESA “Phobos Blog,” shrewdly observed—
Posted by: Daniel Fischer • Thanks for sharing these data! • reply
09-03-2010 • 17:37:42
Thanks to the Cologne people and ESA for sharing these hot non-imaging data, even without vertical scales – a clever (and accepted) way in showing success without compromising scientific details.
Though, as the total mass of Phobos and C/A distance are both known, reconstructing the ‘missing’ Hertz residuals scale in the 1st plot should be possible for any physicist, right [emphasis added]?
By putting out the actual raw “gravity tracking” data this early, ESA was (apparently) “hedging its bets”; if it WAS planning to release ALL the data, from ALL the experiments carried out during this unique “dozen Phobos fly-by orbit sequence …” — revealing that it IS an “ancient, manufactured object” (as I was beginning to seriously suspect …), this was a MAJOR, additional step in signaling thatultimate intention ….
Providing the perfect segue into what came next–
The Phobos Blog — published on March 25th … posted this “little bit of ‘tracking news'”:
General , Science 25 March, 2010 17:21
Radio science result from 2008 Phobos Flyby now accepted for publication
I’ve just heard that the technical paper discussing the mass and density of Phobos, as determined during the 2008 flyby, has been accepted by Geophysical Research Letters. The abstract is:
We report independent results from two subgroups of the Mars Express Radio Science (MaRS) team who independently analyzed Mars Express (MEX) radio tracking data for the purpose of determining consistently the gravitational attraction of the moon Phobos on the MEX spacecraft, and hence the mass of Phobos. New values for the gravitational parameter (GM=0.7127 ± 0.0021 x 10-³ km³/s²) and density of Phobos (1876 ± 20 kg/m³) provide meaningful new constraints on the corresponding range of the body’s porosity (30% ± 5%), provide a basis for improved interpretation of the internal structure. We conclude that the interior of Phobos likely contains large voids. When applied to various hypotheses bearing on the origin of Phobos, these results are inconsistent with the proposition that Phobos is a captured asteroid [emphasis added] ….
No … this was NOT “the rest of the radio-tracking results” from the March 3rd fly-by, that we were all eagerly anticipating ….
A nominal announcement of “scientific journal (peer-reviewed) publication” … of earlier Phobos “gravity-tracking” results–
From data acquired two YEARS earlier by Mars Express … back in 2008!!
Another major clue that … the political goals of the current, ultra-close Phobos “fly-by campaign” were predicated on the provocative results discovered earlier … in the 2008 fly-bys ….
Which, quoting from the just-published abstract–
” … provide meaningful new constraints on the corresponding range of the body’s [Phobos’] porosity (30% ± 5%), [and thus] provide a basis for improved interpretation of the internal structure. We conclude that theinterior of Phobos likely contains large voids. When applied to various hypotheses bearing on the origin of Phobos, these results are inconsistent with the proposition that Phobos is a captured asteroid[emphasis added] …”
“Inconsistent … that Phobos is a captured asteroid …?”
There … the “ticking time bomb to Disclosure” —
For, Phobos IS — according to these officially-published ESA 2008 Mars Express tracking measurements–
Precisely the same result … as the Soviets reported from their own “mysteriously lost” Phobos-2 Mission — back in 1989 (below)!
Which, of course, is how we at Enterprise have KNOWN about “the reality of an artificial Phobos …” since “Bush 1” … for 21 years–
From correctly interpreting official Soviet spacecraft findings at Mars, in 1989 — data published openly in “the most prestigious science journal in the world,” Nature — of the observed, artificial nature of the evidence transmitted back from the Soviet’s first “Phobos Mission” … Phobos-2 … before it “disappeared.”
Findings which now — from ALL the political clues and “dots’ we’ve been publishing here at Enterprise on “real disclosure,” for months on end — are about to be openly confirmed by ESA [….]
I have serious doubts about any “disclosure.” The word leaves a bad taste in my mouth in that the Euros, or any world government for that matter will admit finding any exo-archeological artifact, no matter how old, dead or benign the object appears to be.
People on Earth aren’t ready to share the Universe yet, especially the radical extreme Abrahamaic religious types.
But if true, this would be the type of proof the SETI types need to prove their hypothesis.
I don’t think so though. They can be just as dogmatic and extreme as the above!