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The Original Cloud Cuckoo Land

From Dr. Beachcoming:


‘Magonia’ is a word that sends thrills down many spines. It is, of course, the name of a magical medieval land hidden from mortal man. It has been jumped on by modern UFO researchers as an example of early contact: skyboats were said to fly out of Magonia. Jacques Vallée wrote Passport to Magonia (1969 – it was first published in English), perhaps the single most influential work on UFO lore ever composed: certainly one of dazzling originality. Magonia is also the name of a (brilliant) online forum for collectors of Forteana, particularly Forteana seen in the skies or dropping from the same. But what actually is all the fuss about? Well, Beach thought that he would write a series of posts on Magonia over the next weeks – as he did recently with the Amazons – because this extraordinary place has not really received the attention it deserves and because there is something to be said for looking at the question in a larger framework. The matter is – apologies – just too big for one post.

The first thing to say about Magonia is that it exists in one measly medieval if fascinating source and that the word only appears once there: a texual emendation could get rid of Magonia for ever. Our author is Agobard of Lyons (obit c. 840), Archbishop and Carolingian intellectual. We’ll come back to Agobard and his agenda in later posts, but for now here is an extract from his Against the absurd opinions of the people concerning hail and thunder (Contra insulsam uulgi opinionem de grandine et tonitruis). Please don’t feel short-changed the subject of ‘so much foolishness’ and ‘so much stupidity’ will covered in the near future.

But we saw and heard many overwhelmed with so much foolishness and demented with so much stupidity that they believe there is a region which is called Magonia. From this region ships come in the clouds. The crops that were ruined because of hail and lost in storms are carried back into that region [i.e. Magonia]. These sky sailors, clearly, make a payment to the tempestarii [storm-makers (European witch doctors?, another post another day)], taking wheat and other crops.

Plerosque autem uidimus et audiuimus tanta dementia obrutos, tanta stultitia alienatos, ut credant et dicant, quandam esse regionem quae dicatur Magonia, ex qua naues ueniant in nubibus, in quibus fruges quae grandinibus decidunt et tempestatibus pereunt, uehantur in eandem regionem, ipsis uidelicet nautis aereis dantibus pretia tempestarii, et accipientibus frumenta uel ceteras fruges.

We have clearly run here into a bit of European folklore. Most of early medieval sources for folklore come to us in precisely this way. An ecclesiastical writer – and there were not many other types at this date – is complaining about what the plebs out in the field actually believe, as opposed to his precious Christian credo. (In passing, Beach also wants to note, against many other writers on this topic, that Magonia is NOT said to be in the heavens, we learn only that sky ships sail out of it, not quite the same thing). However, what has really caught UFO-ers and, indeed, scholars attention is the next passage, which is bloody weird. It is worth underlining that Agobard was a presiding eye-witness here: this is not hearsay.

Hmm..UFOers you say Doc?

Read on at Beacoming’s Bizarre History!

Magonia #1: Introducing a Medieval Cloud Cuckoo Land

Update: The Olympic Goodyear “UFO”

I knew it was too good to be true, darn it!

Sometimes it’s a bitch finding a decent conspiracy, lol!


When a strange, milky-white object glided over the Olympics opening ceremony and was caught on video, there was chatter that this was the extraterrestrial visitation for which UFO researchers are constantly searching.

Now we know the truth behind the strange object spotted amid the pyrotechnics spectacle. It was Goodyear’s “Spirit of Safety” blimp. And a spokesman for the company tells HuffPost why the aircraft appeared so mysterious.

To put it simply, the electric signage was turned off, so that it wouldn’t interfere with the show.

“I can definitely tell you we were up in the air for the entirety of the opening ceremonies. I can’t speak to what else was in the air, but the blimp was certainly up there during the fireworks,” said Goodyear U.S. public relations manager Doug Grassian.

“During the whole ceremony, we were providing the coverage for NBC, so we were up in the air the whole time [with our ship] the Spirit of Safety,” Grassian told The Huffington Post.

Three days prior to the start of the Olympics, the Associated Press reported that William Hill, a London betting house, had offered 1,000-to-1 odds that a flying saucer would appear over Olympic Stadium during the opening ceremony. So, people in the U.K. were already wondering — and betting on — if such an event would occur.

Alas, it was only Goodyear’s Spirit of Safety that showed up in the restricted airspace above the stadium.

The word “Goodyear” — which normally appears on the blimp — was removed, adding to the confusion and misidentification of the blimp as a UFO.

“Because we’re not a sponsor of the Olympics, we had to take the Goodyear branding off of it,” Grassian explained. “That’s why when you look at it, you probably just see blue and yellow with no words on it. It will remain that way until the Olympics are done.”

This isn’t the first time a Goodyear blimp has been mistaken for a UFO.

“It happens occasionally,” Grassian said. “I’ve been in this job roughly two years, and I’ve seen a couple of incidents where people have called us to ask if the blimp was around because they thought there was a UFO [in the area].”

Those London betting offices probably didn’t have to pay off any UFO wagers this time around.

Also there’s another correction, I made a notation about the “Pope.” Actually, it was Nick Pope, not the Catholic Pope.

Last month, former British Ministry of Defence UFO desk agent Nick Pope alluded to the possibility of something like this happening in remarks to The Daily Mail: “If aliens have studied our psychology, they may choose to appear in our skies on a significant date – the closing ceremony of the Olympic Games is one date being widely circulated by conspiracy groups.”

But in an email to De Void, Pope maintains his statement was a PR boost for a PlayStation Vita “Resistance: Burning Skies” alien-invasion video game. Even so, “It was a safe bet,” he adds. “With a TV audience of billions and with so many cameras, somebody was bound to spot something and say it was a UFO. Also, with my original remarks in mind, this is a classic self-fulfilling prophesy: I say ‘watch out for UFOs’ and because I used to investigate UFOs for the government, people read something into my remarks and start expecting something to happen. In such circumstances, any light in the sky will be seized upon by people and turned into an alien spacecraft, in some people’s minds.”

Ultimately, Pope says, the UK’s Civil Aviation Authority should be able to resolve the issue with flight logs. But in the event the CAA draws blanks, what would it portend for William Hill, the London gambling house that begat the 1,000-1 odds on UFO wagering? This word of advice from spokesman Rupert Adams: Read the fine print.

“The betting for the UFO at the Olympics had some fairly specific guidelines,” he writes in an email to De Void. “That either the serving Prime Minister or American President confirms that either of their Air Forces confirm that a UFO was seen above the stadium.” Oh, and P.S.: “The other bet we do offer is 100-1 that the serving PM or President confirms the current existence of intelligent ET’s.”

Well, Obama’s out, this being an election year, but hey, it should be a piece of cake for David Cameron. In 2009, as a PM candidate, Cameron went on the record for UFO glasnost in the UK: “I think we should be as open about these things as possible. So I should be quite happy to give you a guarantee that if I was prime minister, I would be entirely open and frank about these things.”

William Hill should place odds on that.

Nick Pope shilling for video games?

Well, I shouldn’t be surprised. Researching UFOs isn’t exactly a profit making enterprise.

We’re all in trouble if Richard Dolan starts doing the same thing though, lol!

Olympics UFO Was Definitely Our Blimp: Goodyear

CAA logs could resolve Olympics UFO