Advanced Oort Cloud Civilisations?
From Centauri Dreams:
Jules Verne once had the notion of a comet grazing the Earth and carrying off a number of astounded people, whose adventures comprise the plot of the 1877 novel Off on a Comet. It’s a great yarn that was chosen by Hugo Gernsback to be reprinted as a serial in the first issues of his new magazine Amazing Stories back in 1926, but with a diameter of 2300 kilometers, Verne’s comet was much larger than anything we’ve actually observed. Comets tend to be small but they make up for it in volume, with an estimated 100 billion to several trillion thought to exist in the Oort Cloud. All that adds up to a total mass of several times the Earth’s.
Of course, coming up with mass estimates is, as with so much else about the Oort Cloud, a tricky business. Paul R. Weissman noted a probable error of about one order of magnitude when he produced the above estimate in 1983. What we are safe in saying is something that has caught Freeman Dyson’s attention: While most of the mass and volume in the galaxy is comprised of stars and planets, most of the area actually belongs to asteroids and comets. There’s a lot of real estate out there, and we’ll want to take advantage of it as we move into the outer Solar System and beyond.
Comets and Resources
Embedded with rock, dust and organic molecules, comets are composed of water ice as well as frozen gases like methane, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, ammonia and an assortment of compounds containing nitrogen, oxygen and sulfur. Porous and undifferentiated, these bodies are malleable enough to make them interesting from the standpoint of resource extraction. Richard P. Terra wrote about the possibilities in a 1991 article published in Analog:
This light fragile structure means that the resources present in the comet nuclei will be readily accessible to any human settlers. The porous mixture of dust and ice would offer little mechanical resistance, and the two components could easily be separated by the application of heat. Volatiles could be further refined through fractional distillation while the dust, which has a high content of iron and other ferrous metals, could easily be manipulated with magnetic fields.
Put a human infrastructure out in the realm of the comets, in other words, and resource extraction should be a workable proposition. Terra talks about colonies operating in the Oort Cloud but we can also consider it, as he does, a proving ground for even deeper space technologies aimed at crossing the gulf between the stars. Either way, as permanent settlements or as way stations offering resources on millennial journeys, comets should be plentiful given that the Oort Cloud may extend half the distance to Alpha Centauri. Terra goes on:
Little additional crushing or other mechanical processing of the dust would be necessary, and its fine, loose-grained structure would make it ideal for subsequent chemical processing and refining. Comet nuclei thus represent a vast reservoir of easily accessible materials: water, carbon dioxide, ammonia, methane, and a variety of metals and complex organics.
Energy by Starlight
Given that comets probably formed on the outer edges of the solar nebula, their early orbits would have been more or less in the same plane as the rest of the young system, but gravitational interactions with passing stars would have randomized their orbital inclinations, eventually producing a sphere of the kind Jan Oort first postulated back in 1950. Much of this is speculative, because we have little observational evidence to go on, but the major part of the cometary shell probably extends from 40,000 to 60,000 AU, while a projected inner Oort population extending from just beyond the Kuiper Belt out to 10,000 AU may have cometary orbits more or less in the plane of the ecliptic. Out past 10,000 AU the separation between comets is wide, perhaps about 20 AU, meaning that any communities that form out here will be incredibly isolated.
Image: An artist’s rendering of the Kuiper Belt and Oort Cloud. Credit: NASA/Donald K. Yeomans.
Whether humans can exploit cometary resources this far from home will depend on whether or not they can find sources of energy. In a paper called “Fastships and Nomads,” presented at the Conference on Interstellar Migration held at Los Alamos in 1983, Eric Jones and Ben Finney give a nod to non-renewable energy sources like deuterium, given that heavy elements like uranium will be hard to come by. Indeed, a typical comet, in Richard Terra’s figures, holds between 50,000 and 100,000 metric tons of deuterium, enough to power early settlement and mining.
But over the long haul, Jones and Finney are interested in keeping colonies alive through renewable resources, and that means starlight. The researchers talk about building vast mirrors using aluminum from comets, with each 1 MW mirror about the size of the continental United States. Now here’s a science fiction setting with punch, as the two describe it:
Although the mirrors would be tended by autonomous maintenance robots, the nomads would have to live nearby in case something went wrong… Although we could imagine that the several hundred people who could be supported by the resources of a single comet might live in a single habitat, the mirrors supporting that community would be spread across about 150,000 km. Trouble with a mirror or robot on the periphery of the mirror array would mean a long trip, several hours at least. It would make more sense if the community were dispersed in smaller groups so that trouble could be reached in a shorter time. There are also social reasons for expecting the nomad communities to be divided into smaller co-living groups.
Jones and Finney go on to point out that humans tend to work best in groups of about a dozen adults, whether in the form of hunter/gatherer bands, army platoons, bridge clubs or political cells. This observation of behavior leads them to speculate that bands of about 25 men, women and children would live together in a large habitat — think again of an O’Neill cylinder — built out of cometary materials, from which they would tend a mirror farm with the help of robots and computers. Each small group would tend a mirror farm perhaps 30,000 kilometers across.
The picture widens beyond this to include the need for larger communities that would occasionally come together, helping to avoid the genetic dangers of inbreeding and providing a larger social environment. Thus we might have about 500 individuals in clusters of 20 cometary bands which would stay in contact and periodically meet. Jones and Finney consider the band-tribe structure to be the smallest grouping that seems practical for any human community. Who would such a community attract — outcasts, dissidents, adventurers? And how would Oort Cloud settlers react to the possibility of going further still, to another star?
While by no means is this is a new theory, ( note the Jules Verne story ), it presents the scenario of the very slow spreading of intelligent biological life through-out the Galaxy ( see Slow Galactic Colonization, Zoo Hypothesis and the Fermi Paradox ).
Now here’s a thought; could a potential alien Oort Cloud civilization be the basis of the Ancient Astronaut Theory and the legends of the Sumerian Gods, the Anunnaki?
There’s no hard evidence of that of course, but there are Pluto-sized and larger objects in the Kuiper Belt glowing in the infrared, a sign that was said to represent a Dyson Sphere type civilisation.
Either these are natural objects such as Brown Dwarf stars, or potential alien civilisations whom don’t care whether they are detected in the infrared or not.
And that’s disturbing.
“Nibiru” = Nemesis / Cleveland UFOs
The Nibiru Myth gets another reboot from scientists:
AN invisible star responsible for the extinction of dinosaurs may be circling the Sun and causing comets to bombard the Earth, scientists said.
Now NASA scientists believe they will be able to find Nemesis using a new heat-seeking telescope that began scanning the skies in January.
The Wide-Field Infrared Survey Explorer – expected to find a thousand brown dwarf stars within 25 light years of the Sun – has already sent back a photo of a comet possibly dislodged from the Oort Cloud.
Scientists’ first clue to the existence of Nemesis was the bizarre orbit of a dwarf planet called Sedna. Scientists believe its unusual, 12,000-year-long oval orbit could be explained by a massive celestial body.
Mike Brown, who discovered Sedna in 2003, said: “Sedna is a very odd object – it shouldn’t be there.
The only way to get on an eccentric orbit is to have some giant body kick you – so what is out there?”
Professor John Matese, of the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, said most comets come from the same part of the Oort Cloud.
He added: “There is statistically significant evidence that this concentration of comets could be caused by a companion to the Sun.”
I think until we actually send a probe to “Nemesis”, all this news will do is fuel the fire of Niribu, End Times and 2012.
But it does make you wonder how the Sumerians knew about these outer planets 5,000 years ago.
Invisible star ‘shooting comets at Earth’
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It’s been quite a while since mainstream media has said anything serious about UFOs. Usually the corporate media has nothing but derision concerning the subject.
However since the appearance of UFOs over Lake Erie near the city of Cleveland have UFOs once again in the mainstream ken:
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I was kind of impressed MSNBC interviewed Nick Pope. But being a former UK Minister of Defense does help the credibility factor somewhat.
The Popularity of Nibiru (Is it hope, or despair?)
During a brief email chat I had recently with long time commenter Carl Nemo, I asked him why I was still getting a lot of comments on the Nibiru post I made last year, A Nibiru Update . Here is part of the answer Nemo gave me, and I’m sure he wouldn’t mind me posting it:
The arrival of Planet X represents the possibility of planetary redemption a major cleansing of much that is bad with overpopulation and general crowding as surely one of them. So I believe at a subconscious level that people are seeking a paradigm shift that will somehow terminally upset the elitists’ applecart and their seemingly slam dunk plans for the citizens of planet earth.
Whether it’s Planet X, or the return of Jesus or whatever many folks are looking for a way out even if it means their immolation.
Nemo makes a good point here, in which he analyses that the coming of Nibiru, if it exists, is equivalent to the Second Coming of Christ, The 12th Imam and the New Age in 2012 as foretold by the Mayan calendar. I would like to add another event that is techno-scientific in nature, although hard-core “empiricists” would argue against this premise and deny it to the very end, the Technological Singularity.
All of the above events are believed to either rescue the ‘faithful’ , transform, or transcend humans and the Earth into a new ‘Age’ in which there will be no more war, death, hunger, greed, want and the guilty will get their just punishment. All you have to do is to believe, have faith or maybe actively work toward that end.
Sounds good in theory, n’est pas?
Nibiru started out as a god in ancient Sumerian texts in approximately 4,000 BC (I use the old ‘Before and After’ Christ thing here) , primarily in the old stories of Enki , Enlil and the Anunna. From there, in the estimation of Zecharia Sitchin, the Sumerians were actually recording events, not mythology.
However, most language translators and mainstream archeologists often scoff at Sitchin’s theories, often calling them “incorrect” according to Wikipedia:
When Sitchin wrote his books, only specialists could read the Sumerian language, but now anyone can check his translations by utilizing the 2006 book Sumerian Lexicon.[7] Sitchin’s translations of both individual words and of larger portions of ancient texts are generally found to be incorrect.[8][9]
I am not a language scholar, so you must draw your own conclusions here. In my estimation, although the planetary collision theory is good (the current theory on how our Moon was formed draws on this), Sitchin’s time frame misses the mark. It would take hundreds of millions of years to accomplish what Sitchin says was accomplished in 45 million years.
Science has not disproved the existence of Nibiru (Planet X) however. The New Scientist magazine recently posted an article on whether Nibiru exists or not. And the findings might surprise you:
If we know enough to say the solar system is a filigree construction, we might reasonably assume we know where all its bits are. But lurking in the solar system’s dark recesses, rumour has it, is an unsighted world – Planet X, a frozen body perhaps as large as Mars, or even Earth.
Planet X would be the most significant addition to the solar system since the discovery of Pluto, the now notorious non-planet, in 1930. When the International Astronomical Union voted to downgrade Pluto to dwarf planet status in 2006, they established three criteria for a fully blown planet in our solar system: it must orbit the sun; its gravity must suffice to mould it into a near-spherical shape; and it must be massive enough to have ploughed its orbit clear of other bits and bobs. Pluto falls down on this third point. It is just one of many Kuiper belt objects (KBOs), icy bits of debris that pepper space from Neptune’s orbit at 30 astronomical units out to around 50 AU, where 1 AU is the distance between Earth and the sun.
Any new object would have to be well clear of the Kuiper belt to qualify as a planet. Yet intriguingly, it is studies of the belt that have suggested the planet’s existence. Some KBOs travel in extremely elongated orbits around the sun. Others have steep orbits almost at right angles to the orbits of all the major planets. “Those could be signs of perturbation from a massive distant object,” says Robert Jedicke, a solar system scientist at the University of Hawaii.
Note that astronomers would designate a ‘Planet X’ as a large Kuiper Belt object, which means that it would be colder than cold, with its atmosphere frozen solid on its surface. But they haven’t debunked the possibility of it either, have they?
The question is, “Could intelligent beings exist on such a world?”
The short answer is, outside of science-fiction, no (Based on our current knowledge of mainstream biology).
So that leaves us at the beginning, does Nibiru bring us hope or despair?
If you’re hardwired to be of a religious persuasion, yes. The Coming of Planet X can bring both, hope for the faithful, despair and judgement for the guilty.
But if you’re an agnostic like myself, science has yet to prove its existence, but it’s very likely it does.
Just not in the form most folks think it is.
Sources
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_Singularity
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UFOs, history and the hardware
Ancient UFOs were my first ‘esoteric’ study, but looking back on it, there was nothing esoteric about it. Erich Von Daniken was pretty clear in his assumptions that what ancient peoples took for “gods” or “god’s chariots” were mechanical, material contrivances. Von Daniken’s photographic proofs of many ancient sites, stone architectures/carvings, artifacts and paintings of strange, hard to explain objects that could only be used as examples of ‘flying objects’ in relation to our own present day aircraft technology could these things only be hoped to identify.
Von Daniken was immediately poo-pooed by the mainstream archeology community of course and in later years, many in the so-called esoteric community did the same. It must have been his rather flambouyant style that did Von Daniken in. There could only be one P.T. Barnum.
Zecharia Sitchen is another proponent of the ancient UFO theory, only his was more refined and specific to one area, the Middle East. Namely the old Tigris/Euphrates valley cultures of the Sumerians, Ur, Uruk, Umma, Lagash, Nippur and Kish. The Sumerian city-states are reportedly the first (ur)ban cultures to arise from the Neolithic and the first to arise fully armed for advanced civilization, i.e., writing, numbers, laws, brick and stone buildings, roads, farming communities supporting the city, a ruling elite and most of all, standing armies.
Sitchen’s contention is that the Sumerian culture arose so quickly, so advanced and so complete with no traceable primitive cultures to track back to means that maybe, just maybe, they had some help. So he studied the most obvious telling feature of the Sumerian civilization, its writing and language. Heck, why not? Let the Sumerians themselves explain how they came about!
And here is how we know about the Annunaki, Nibiru ( Planet X ), Tiamat, the Adamu, Nephilim and other stories that have been handed down to us through Jewish and Christian scholars over the millenia into our Western Culture. Almost all the early chapters of the Torah and Bible are copies of the much older Sumerian texts, word for word, story for story practically. Scholars, both secular and theological have their disagreements with that statement, but I’m not going to go over that at this time. I’m going to comment on the hardware of the Annunaki.
Below is a carving of the Annunaki giving the ancesters of the Sumerians (the Adamu) laws and civilization. Notice the obvious ‘manufactured’ look to it.
Sumerian deity Ianna (?) or Dumuzi bringing the gift of culture to Uruk.
Check out this site here if you wish to study more about the Sumerians and the Annunaki.
In modern times, the nuclear engineer turned UFO investigator Stan Friedman is the most ardent supporter of the ‘nuts and bolts’ theory of UFOs, his studies go back to the time of the original nuts and bolts theorist J. Allen Hynek in the late 1950s, early 1960s.
Friedman’s technological take on UFOs in understandable in my view because, let’s face it, how can a nuclear engineer look at it otherwise? C’mon! But the man is labeled a ‘fossil’ in some circles ( okay, he’s a senior citizen, but who ain’t gonna be unless ya die first, WTF! ) and a new wave of UFO theorists are taking the field, or already have taken the field, and have been advocating the ‘paranormal’ theory.
But I wouldn’t throw Friedman’s studies out with the bathwater just yet if I were them. Check this out:
Bird strike, or something else?
Looks like something pretty solid hit here, huh? WTF was it?
Is it paranormal, para-metal or Memorex?
Read Ted Twietmeyer’s essay about this here.
So what can we conclude from this evidence? The mainstream says, “What evidence?”, and then stick their heads back in the sand or posteriors. But what about my fellow skeptics out there, machine, or mental manipulation? Both maybe?
Both? “C’mon Dad, yer over-dosin’ on yer seizure meds agin” you’re thinking.
But maybe that isn’t such a wild idea after all. We’ll check that out later!
Update: Check out Lloyd Pye’s site, http://www.lloydpye.com/ and click on the ‘Intervention’ then ‘Sumer’ slideshow links. Pye is an advocate of Sitchen obviously, but the site is full of good information.
Ancient Sumerians Record Meteor Event
From Physorg.com:
The giant landslide centred at Köfels in Austria is 500m thick and five kilometres in diameter and has long been a mystery since geologists first looked at it in the 19th century. The conclusion drawn by research in the middle 20th century was that it must be due to a very large meteor impact because of the evidence of crushing pressures and explosions. But this view lost favour as a much better understanding of impact sites developed in the late 20th century…
…new research by Alan Bond, Managing Director of Reaction Engines Ltd and Mark Hempsell, Senior Lecturer in Astronautics at Bristol University, brings the impact theory back into play. It centres on another 19th century mystery, a Cuneiform tablet in the British Museum collection No K8538 (known as “the Planisphere”).
It was found by Henry Layard in the remains of the library in the Royal Place at Nineveh, and was made by an Assyrian scribe around 700 BC. It is an astronomical work as it has drawings of constellations on it and the text has known constellation names. It has attracted a lot of attention but in over a hundred years nobody has come up with a convincing explanation as to what it is.With modern computer programmes that can simulate trajectories and reconstruct the night sky thousands of years ago the researchers have established what the Planisphere tablet refers to. It is a copy of the night notebook of a Sumerian astronomer as he records the events in the sky before dawn on the 29 June 3123 BC (Julian calendar). Half the tablet records planet positions and cloud cover, the same as any other night, but the other half of the tablet records an object large enough for its shape to be noted even though it is still in space. The astronomers made an accurate note of its trajectory relative to the stars, which to an error better than one degree is consistent with an impact at Köfels.
Ancient Sumerians were superb observers of the night sky and are credited with the founding of astrology, which surprisingly is still practiced and followed to this day. They passed this practice on to their Assyrian and Babylonian descendents, who spread it to the Hebrews.
After the Babylonians came the Persian Empire, who no doubt practiced it and when Alexander the Great conquered them, it spread even more through the West. The ancient Egyptians practiced a form of astrology and some argue they taught the Sumerians, but the Sumerians were contemporaries and possibly an older culture, so it might be the other way around, nobody is sure. That is how mainstream historians see it anyway and there are other alternative histories that contradict the main doctrine, but that’s for another post.
It’s interesting to note that ancient Middle Eastern cultures show a certain continuity, because the article says the cuneiform tablet is Assyrian and that it was a copy from a Sumerian original that was 2400 years older. So astronomical observation was a well developed discipline that no doubt had well trained observers. Modern researchers obviously are taking this into account as they verify the meteorite theory.
Ancient Sumerians are also credited with another astronomical observation, an event that might occur every 5000 years like clockwork.
Does ‘Nibiru’ ring a bell?
Some More Nibiru News
With all of the recent talk of ‘disclosure’ about UFOs, ETs and the references to Arthur C. Clarke’s 1956 novel ‘Childhood’s End’, I’d thought some video clips about Nibiru were in order.
The corporate mainstream media recently has been going through a crash program of shoving the possibility of life on Mars, or on the moons of Jupiter and Saturn onto the delirious world public, especially Americans who ‘revel’ in their holy ignorance. Add that to science programs on television touting the possibility of large planetary ‘bodies’ in the outer Solar System area dubbed the ‘Kuiper Belt’ (where Pluto and its moon Charon got banished to recently), you have the makings of the biggest mass meme immersion since Bu$hco sold the Iraq War (he’s still trying to sell it).
Will it work? Well, according to some people like Michael Salla, we have until the 2013/2017 time frame. If nothing of any significance takes place by then, the ETs will pull an ‘Independence Day’ style massive mothership parking spot maneuver over a few major cities. Shock treatment.
Does Nibiru figure into this? Maybe. If anything, it’s a distraction.
Nemesis, Nibiru & 2012
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Will the Japanese find Nibiru?
From Physorg.com:
The researchers at Kobe University in western Japan said calculations using computer simulations led them to conclude it was only a matter of time before the mysterious “Planet X” was found.”Because of the very cold temperature, its surface would be covered with ice, icy ammonia and methane,” Kobe University professor Tadashi Mukai, the lead researcher, told AFP.The study by Mukai and researcher Patryk Lykawka will be published in the April issue of the US-based Astronomical Journal.”The possibility is high that a yet unknown, planet-class celestial body, measuring 30 percent to 70 percent of the Earth’s mass, exists in the outer edges of the solar system,” said a summary of the research released by Kobe University.“If research is conducted on a wide scale, the planet is likely to be discovered in less than 10 years,” it said.
Ever since Zecharia Sitchen proposed the theory of extraterrestrial contact with the ancient Sumerian culture over thirty years ago and the story of the aliens’ home, Nibiru, many points and counter-points concerning the existence of such a planetary body have been written. As astronomers and astrophysicists studied the Solar System through improved ground and space based telescopes and robotic probes in recent years, more has been learned about planetary motion, gravity, cosmic radiation, solar wind and materials that make us and the planets up than in the previous 400. The discovery of the Kuiper Belt at the fringes of the Solar System was an extremely important one because a whole new class of objects gave space scientists a larger backyard to play in. The relegation of Pluto and its moon Charon to Kuiper Belt objects instead of regular planets (because of their Neptune crossing orbit) was a huge step in recognizing the larger outer solar system as a harbinger of objects that might be as large, or larger than our Moon and planets the size of Mars.
Although the Sitchin Sumerian translations indicate that Nibiru might’ve had a breathable atmosphere that required ‘gold-dust’ to maintain its planetary temperature in a kind of controlled ‘green-house’ effect because of the planet’s long elliptical orbit taking it to the outer depths of solar space, chances are that Planet X has an atmosphere that will be frozen onto its surface until it gets closer to the Sun and starts warming up. A ‘coma’, or a cometary effect might become evident when the planet comes closer to the Sun, if its orbit brings it in that way. It’ll definitely be a show!
Planet X, or Nibiru has always been the stuff of legend and myth. The Japanese proposal threatens to make fantasy into fact. And they did say it could be confirmed in a little under ten years. A little, like say give or take six years?
In time for 2012 maybe?
Discovery of vast prehistoric works built by Giants?
From Official Disclosure Radio via The Anomalist:
This satellite image (above) is a portion of the Andean foothills surrounding Lake Titicaca in Bolivia, South America. It is a small sample of a vast network of patterns that surround the lake and extend for more than one hundred miles south into the Bolivian desert. The patterns display geometric repetition and intelligent design. There are interlocking rectangular cells and mounds, perfectly straight lines and tree like arrays that are uncharacteristic with natural erosion. These cover every topographical feature of the high plateau surrounding the lake, over flood plains, hills, cliffs and mountains. Although these geoglyphs are remarkable in their obvious strangeness, what is more astounding is that they have remained in obscurity until now. In the same way modern archeologists recently found the ruins of hidden Mayan temples in the Guatemalan jungle by using earth orbiting satellites, we have discovered what could be one of the greatest finds of our time…
This is a stupendous find. This is only one of many archeological finds of great antiquity found in South America this past year, most of which have been found in the Andes Mountains in Peru and Bolivia. There is no way mainstream science can explain away the obvious artificial features of these constructs.
I find interesting the stories of “giants” and a “Great Flood” resembling the legends of the Sumerians, Hebrews, Egyptians and other ancient Middle Eastern peoples. It does beg the question if a world-wide flood actually happened thousands of years ago, wiping out whole populations of people and animals of some kind, or many “localized” large floods in areas that had extensive glacial coverage that all of a sudden started melting at a rapid pace. So rapid in fact that people had very little warning to pack their stuff and move out of harm’s way. The survivors of course had tales of such catastrophes world wide to pass down to future generations until finally they were written down by literate cultures.
There are many mysteries unanswered from Mankind’s past that are the basis for many of the world’s religions, legends and myths. Ancient aliens, gods, UFOs, angels, demons, giants, great floods and tales of nuclear wars are clearly part and parcel of past human experience. Something or somebody has definitely been interacting with us for a very, very long time.
Some call it God. Some say aliens from other planets, or our own descendants from the future. A more recent theory is that there is an ancient race native to this world, only millions of years more evolved than we are who exist in another dimension and watches over us like parents with wayward children.
What ever the phenomenon is, hopefully there’s a true answer for it.
Maybe the Mayans knew something after all?
A Nibiru Update
Here’s some more information about the planet Nibiru, or Planet X. Certain government official(s) in Norway have contacted the people running Project Camelot claiming that other than the huge seed bank that has been built there (funded by Bill Gates no less), huge underground bases have been constructed also:
I am a Norwegian politician. I would like to say that difficult things will happen from the year 2008 till the year 2012.
The Norwegian government is building more and more underground bases and bunkers. When asked, they simply say that it is for the protection of the people of Norway. When I enquire when they are due to be finished, they reply “before 2011”.
Israel is also doing the same and many other countries too.
My proof that what I am saying is true is in the photographs I have sent of myself and all the Prime Ministers and ministers I tend to meet and am acquainted with. They know all of this, but they don’t want to alarm the people or create mass panic.
Planet X is coming, and Norway has begun with storage of food and seeds in the Svalbard area and in the arctic north with the help of the US and EU and all around in Norway. They will only save those that are in the elite of power and those that can build up again: doctors, scientists, and so on.
As for me, I already know that I am going to leave before 2012 to go the area of Mosjøen where we have a deep underground military facility. There we are divided into sectors, red, blue and green. The signs of the Norwegian military are already given to them and the camps have already been built a long time ago.
The people that are going to be left on the surface and die with along the others will get no help whatsoever. The plan is that 2,000,000 Norwegians are going to be safe, and the rest will die. That means 2,600,000 will perish into the night not knowing what to do.
All the sectors and arks are connected with tunnels and have railcars that can take you from one ark to the other. This is so that they can be in contact with each other. Only the large doors separate them so that the sectors are not compromised in any matter.
I am very sad. Often I cry with others that know that so many will learn too late, and then it will all be over for them. The government has been lying to the people from 1983 till now. All the major politicians know this in Norway, but few will say it to the people and the public – because they are afraid in case they too will miss the NOAH 12 railcars that will take them to the ark sites where they will be safe.If they tell anyone, they are dead for sure. But I don’t care any more about myself. Mankind must survive and the species must survive. People must know this.
All the governments in the world are aware of this and they just say it is going to happen. For those of the people that can save themselves I can only say reach for higher ground and find caves up in the high places where you can have a food storage for at least five years with canned food and water to last for a while. Radiation pills and biosuits are also advisable if your budget allows it.
For the last time I say may God help us all… but God will not help us I know. Only each person individually can make a difference. Wake up, please…!
A politician with a guilty conscience, or a hoax? We all know that the underground seed vault is not a hoax, that info actually got through the CMSM filter. But was it built for a disaster slated for 2012?
I have written about Nibiru before and while I disagree with Zecharia Sitchen’s time scales, I never discounted the possibility of our Solar System having a brown dwarf companion star.
All of this could just be tinfoil of course, but this merits further investigation. I will give periodic updates when I find them.
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